SFU vs. UBC 2007/2008

[tovers]

I think a beer mile would be a great way to really show which team is truly superior. I just wish for the sake of the sprinters, myself included, that we could work out some sort of beer 4x100 relay event b/c i found out the hard way how grueling a beer mile can be. That's a tough workout by any standards so props to the distance guys..I'm always in for some sort of beer drinking festivity so lets work something out. January works for me, but then again so does any weekend..

[phoenixvic]

any excuse for overs to climb into some spandex, take off his shirt and pound some beers will make him a happy guy. if you want to give it the title of "beer mile" go ahead, but overs usually refers to such occasions as "tonight", "tomorrow night" and "last night".

[Frenchie]

Can you do a Beer 4x100?

Abso-fucking-lutely not!

Clearly any team that is not man enough to complete the full beer mile challenge cannot possibly lay claim to being superior to their competition.

If our power/ speed people can grind out a mile of beer, then yours have absolutely no excuse to puss out with some half-assed beer sprint relay... I mean, honestly, that's the most ridiculous thing I've heard all day... and I had an 1/2 hour meeting with Marek today, so that's saying something.

[dgant]

Beer 4x100 is a bit much, but a Beer 4x400 is totally legitimate. Could be interesting.

A Jan. date would probably work the best, indoor track isn't real track anyway.

And I don't think that battle cry is so terrible. I mean, did you see the determination on that sagging, wrinkled face? She was GIVIN' 'ER!!! I swear she checked the clock to see if she set a PB. Maybe if the UBC froshmores had more of that drive to better oneself you guys would be getting jacked for Nats instead of taking a few weeks off. I'm just sayin'.....

[illwill]

Just when I thought we could finally put to rest this silly sport called XC and start focussing on real events like beer miles you have to add your two cents eh Dylan.

I guarantee you that had both chris and myself raced unscathed, Cam Kuhn hadn't redshirted, Joren hadn't acted like a stunt double from Jumanji (ie. a total and comple f*cktard) and Wilkie had been granted eligibility we would have come top 5, maybe even top 3... yarrrr what a bs season.

I'll be coming off a pretty rigid beer mile training cycle early/mid jan so watch out.

[dgant]

Well somebody had to slap a defibrillator on this thread. The last couple of days its been deader than UBC's cross season.



I apologize, that was a cheap shot. Couldn't help myself.

[Bomba]

...gant..shouldn't u be focussing on some race or something...at least the ubyssey guys have an excuse to 'chat' away.....

[phoenixvic]

how would a sprint relay work? shot, beer, 200, beer, 200, beer - hold empty beer can over next in line's head and then he/she starts the routine again? you'd still be getting in the required 4 drinks, and actually in a much shorter amount of time, just be a little easier on the bouncin' belly. Actually thats a shot and 3 beers in somewhere between 90 and 180 seconds i am guessing. i'd be down for watching that.

[dgant]

What I need to be focusing on is this article review due tomorrow. Yet here I am......

[Schnopps]

quite frankly it'd probably be best for the sfu sprinters to grow a pair and do the real beer mile, but if thats not possible(and i can see this being the case) then what about a 16x100 with teams of 4. each person will still drink 4 beers, run 4 times AND the team would complete a mile the same as the others.

[tovers]

for the record, many of the sfu sprinters did do the beer mile at our team party early in the year. For me, there were a few things which affected my performance..
1. It was my 1st beer mile ever so i was a little inexperienced..not so much with the drinking
2. It was my 1st track workout of the year

I think some sort of shorter version, however worked out, would allow even the UBC sprinters, if there are any, to participate in the beer drinking, track running events and make for a more intense rivalry for both teams. I'm gonna be working on some different ideas for a modified beer mile, the 4 papers that are due next week can wait.

[illwill]

tovers said:

1. It was my 1st beer mile ever so i was a little inexperienced..not so much with the drinking
2. It was my 1st track workout of the year.

WRONG! Proof as follows.

Since my beer mile debut if the fall of 2004, my beer mile times have incrementally increased each and every race. Also, my XC and track times have decreased over the same period. Furthermoere, I have also partied less and less each and every year since 2004. In conclusion, beer miling is all about 1. ignorance (the less you know the better), 2. intensity of partying (lots of partying being a good thing), 3. fitness (being fit being a bad thing), 4. man-pride.

This sprinter, distance runner battle reminds me of the 2005 beer mile held at Beer Mile Stadium (16th and Imperial), where a young boysterous Ira Thomson ignorantly threw down the gauntlet on behalf of the sprinters, challenging us distance freaks to a beer mile (XC style scoring of the first three runners)... I think distance freaks went 1,2,3 (not including Jeff Symonds DQ, which would have put us 1,2,3,4)

[tovers]

k fuck it, lets just get do this..it'll be good right in the heart of the indoor season.

[dgant]

Whenever I hear the words "Ira Thompson" and "Beer Mile" uttered in the same sentence, the same scene comes to mind: a vision of him and another UBC sprinter-goof racing all out the last 150m of the 2006 post-Canadian Champs Beer Mile at aforementioned Beer Mile Stadium in an attempt to avoid being DFL. Fantastic drama.

I think Will put it best at Shenanigans later that evening (or maybe it was on this very message board, I can't remember): "Ira proved that it doesn't matter what place you're finishing in or what the time says on the clock, sprint finishes in beer miles kick ass."
Indeed they do.

All the evidence points to sprinters being terrible at beer miles. The SFU Beer Mile saw every sprinter who started DNF. Weak.

Beer Mile in September didn't hurt our cross season any, tovers.

[illwill]

If it were at shenanigans, I wouldn't remember... I was too busy cock blocking Jeff.

Other goof being the second half of 'the two retards' - Ward.

[johnnycash]

I think we should have a beer mile regular season which then further goes into the playoffs..any reason to drink is what I am thinking..Thats what Johnny Cash would want us to do!

[illwill]

if johnny cash told you to kick puppies... would you?

beer miles are quite similar to finals at worlds/olympics, the superbowl or the soccer/rugby world cup finals... you got one shot.

this ain't hockey, basketball, baseball, america's cup or fencing...

So grow a pair, get your game together, get dgant to boot for you and don't forget to bring a positive attitude... and some breath mints because i'm pretty sure the girlies(or lads) won't appreciate the stench of post competition.

[Bomba]

.....^*%$*$$ Will....... YOU DO ANYTHING JOHNNY CASH TELLS YOU TO DO.......but Johnny Cash would never ever ever tell you to kick puppies.....Johnny Cash is more powerful than Chuck Norris.....Chuck will destry you with his brute force, but Johnny will (or give you back) steal your soul with a single song.....

[illwill]

more like... johnny will steal your soul with a single song... he stole from another artist.

[Bomba]

...don't be saying that about johnny....people would line up to have johnny sing their songs...... a thread on letsrun a little while expressd my thoughts exactly...'sunday morning coming down' is the greatest song of all time......period......end of story......now who wrote it (no google searches now)

[ronb]

Kristofferson...

[illwill]

Women

1. Simon Fraser
4 7 13 32 43 (63)(116) = 99
Jessica Smith, Kristen Kolstad, Ali Hudson, Angela Shaw, Bianca Gonzales, Nicole
Barrett, Heather Mancell

5. British Columbia
17 33 37 55 85 (103)(130) = 227
Sabrina Reeve, Natalie Ball, Shannon Elmer, Nicole Akeroyd, Meredith Briggs, Fawn
Whiting, Brittany Imlach
Ind.
4 4 427 Jessica Smith FR Simon Fraser 17:47.8 5:44
7 7 424 Kristen Kolstad SR Simon Fraser 17:53.3 5:46
14 13 423 Ali Hudson JR Simon Fraser 18:13.7 5:53
21 17 154 Sabrina Reeve SO British Columbia 18:18.1 5:54

Men

4. Simon Fraser
10 16 41 46 115 (170)(181) = 228
Dylan Gant, David Wambui, Mitchell Culley, Ryan Brockerville, Seth Fraser, Chad Fraser,
Brett Wakefield
Ind.
14 10 432 Dylan Gant SR Simon Fraser 25:09.6 5:04
21 16 434 David Wambui JR Simon Fraser 25:19.6 5:06
Culley Express blasts a 25:53.

[feens]

4th overall...pretty darn good considering a few weeks ago we were ranked 24th...and still 8th going into Nat's. Really shows how underrated we were.

[illwill]

ronb: one point
Bomba: not one point

Reznor now refers to his song hurt as "the song that isn't mine anymore."
... all the time I get "hey is this a cover of johnny cash's song"....
*will swiftly kicks ignorant idiot in the groin*

Great man, great songs. Highly controversial (i like that). "any song i sing is original regardless of who wrote it" is not valid. i can't lead an army into battle saying the words of churchill, that's ridiculous.

[illwill]

in the past month SFU men's team has gone from not being ranked to finishing 4th at 'national championships day'... that's awesome / ridiculous

[Schnopps]

just because johnny covered some songs doesn't mean you can knock him. i mean seriously, he wrote some classics(i walk the line, folsom prison blues, boy named sue...this list goes on). don't take him down a peg because he covered a NIN song. if he covered all his songs then yes, but for god's sake he covered that song 50 years after he first became famous with songs that he wrote himself. once you've proved your songwriting then i think you have a right to cover a song or two.

[Schnopps]

an afterthought, congrats sfu...strong showing indeed

[Bomba]

ron....stay out fo will's way......the question wasn't for you......these dumb bucks have to learn.....the hard way.....now (easy one for ron)...who was Kristofferson's fmeale lead star with in one of the most forgettable movies of all time.....

....congrats to the lads on the hill.....fun course huh.....

[ronb]

Streisand....
I knew I was going to get in s**t from you, Bomber.
Well done to the Clan and the T-Birds !!!
Now, back to Nash

[illwill]

I'm not knocking Cash and his ability/talent....

Cash has the second most albums in my library, second to NIN (bias acknowledged here...). (Sorry, had to google this) But... To quote Reznor (after his first viewing of the 'hurt' music video... which imo is probably the best music video ever made):"I pop the video in, and wow… Tears welling, silence, goose-bumps… Wow. I just lost my girlfriend, because that song isn't mine anymore… It really made me think about how powerful music is as a medium and art form. I wrote some words and music in my bedroom as a way of staying sane, about a bleak and desperate place I was in, totally isolated and alone. [Somehow] that winds up reinterpreted by a music legend from a radically different era/genre and still retains sincerity and meaning—different, but every bit as pure." ... he also has said that he hasn't listened to his version of the song since then... (also to note though, T.R. is one of the nuttiest artist on the planet... the guys f*cked)

But, for the record, cash covered over 50 songs by other artists. (which is probably less than the total number of albums he recorded...).

My beef is the lack of respect he showed to other artists when he did this, not the lack of Cash's talent... the guys a legend (and I don't give a shit he covered hurt, I'm glad he did... the cover is amazingly powerful).

Other artists (including artists who cover Cash's songs) acknowledge that it's a cover and pay tribute to the original recording/artist/songwriter. Cash disagreed with doing this, and never did it. I just think that covering songs is like quoting someone/something in a paper... you have to pay respect to the creators... or else you fail...

If Reznor were to cover Cash and not acknowledge it, I'd be on arguing the same point, knocking the opposite artist.

anyone who hasn't seen the hurt video : www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go ... best ever.

And for the record, the best cover I've heard of a Cash song is Ring of Fire performed by Coldplay... that was amazing.... and they started the set off with this "Tonight, we're going to cover Johnny Cash's Ring of Fire, because he is the best artist ever to walk the earth, we miss you..." - so Bomba, both you, Coldplay, and LetsRun are all in agreeance... who'd a thunk it.

Post Modification: Gant, just because we're not there doesn't mean that you're not expected to post any/all inappropriate/out of context comments from post-game shenanigans.