OFSAA XC 2009 - Yes already

[1972islife]

Nov 1, 2009 15:19:31 GMT -5 mralexmoher said:

Nov 1, 2009 13:08:40 GMT -5 slapchop said:

Looking over what you have posted in the past, yes you have said you'd get beaten. I never put myself into predictions, and if I did it would probably be in first. I wouldn't want the mentality of going for anything less than gold. You're a great runner, I just don't want you wasting my time trying to argue with me.

mabye it's just me, but I've noticed that the best runners in the province don't use this site, just putting that out there. they don't want to get psyched out in the mental game with all these useless predictions, no one can tell anyone how they can race.

speaking of "the mental game" shouldn't good runners be able to look at these preds and be able to move on? if the best runners in the province are counting on the mental aspects of the race, then their minds should be able to block out the negative feed back

[mralexmoher]

Nov 1, 2009 16:11:54 GMT -5 1972islife said:

Nov 1, 2009 15:19:31 GMT -5 mralexmoher said:

mabye it's just me, but I've noticed that the best runners in the province don't use this site, just putting that out there. they don't want to get psyched out in the mental game with all these useless predictions, no one can tell anyone how they can race.

speaking of "the mental game" shouldn't good runners be able to look at these preds and be able to move on? if the best runners in the province are counting on the mental aspects of the race, then their minds should be able to block out the negative feed back

That's true, but all i'm saying is that the predictions on this site have no impact on their mental power come race day, so it ends up being more time wasted loafing around at the computer when they could be doing homework or something. this site would probably suit coaches more than athletes.

[loverunning]

Senior Boys Top 30

1. Daryl Smith – Vincent Massey
2. Paul Janikowski – St. Thomas of Villanova
3. Thomas DeVries – London Central
4. Andrew DeGroot – St. Peters
5. Tristan Woodfine - Opeongo
6. Steve Hosier - Lindsay
7. Ross Proudfoot – Lo Ellen Park
8. Andrew Kowalsky – Vincent Massey
9. Jordan Collison – Saugeen District
10. Chris Balestrini - Saunders
11. Jay Boychuk - Pickering
12. Robbie Denault - Aurora
13. Merid Seleshi – Birchmount Park
14. Abdu Zaghlol – Jacob Hespeler
15. Jeff Archer - Sydenham
16. Dave Meloche – Vincent Massey
17. Andrew Belanger – Kitchener Collegiate
18. Jeremie Bourget – ESC Theriault
19. Evan Esselink - Coutice
20. Connor Darlington – R.S. McLaughlin
21. Juan Arango – Notre Dame
22. Paul LaMarra – Catholic Central
23. Jon Martin – Cameron Heights
24. Austin Forbes - Highland
25. Rob Asselstine - Sydenham
26. Dan Piticariu – Vincent Massey
27. Taylor Forbes - Highland
28. Dylan O’Sullivan - Sydenham
29. Michael Pesce – Innisdale
30. Kieran Day – Holy Trinity

[scheibo]

Nov 1, 2009 13:08:40 GMT -5 slapchop said:

Oct 31, 2009 21:46:34 GMT -5 miletime said:

Did I say that I was going to get beat.

Looking over what you have posted in the past, yes you have said you'd get beaten. I never put myself into predictions, and if I did it would probably be in first. I wouldn't want the mentality of going for anything less than gold. You're a great runner, I just don't want you wasting my time trying to argue with me.

Having the mentality of never going for anything less than gold is unrealistic. One person out of the ~230 that race ofsaa are going to get to gold, and if every single one of them were all gunning for that then they have serious issues setting achievable goals. As a long term goal everyone should hope to achieve some lofty standard like gold, but setting a goal you can't achieve is counterproductive. Harrison probably knows pretty well that he should be up in the top ~10, and and he's in no way limiting himself if he doesn't call himself "for the win". Do you think for one moment if in a race he sees a chance to win he won't take it? While your comment about reaching for the top, not setting limits on oneself and having positive self talk is true, you can't honestly expect you're going to win every single race your in (consider they case where your racing Bekele. would you call yourself for gold there? why not?)

Nov 1, 2009 15:19:31 GMT -5 mralexmoher said:

Nov 1, 2009 13:08:40 GMT -5 slapchop said:

Looking over what you have posted in the past, yes you have said you'd get beaten. I never put myself into predictions, and if I did it would probably be in first. I wouldn't want the mentality of going for anything less than gold. You're a great runner, I just don't want you wasting my time trying to argue with me.

mabye it's just me, but I've noticed that the best runners in the province don't use this site, just putting that out there. they don't want to get psyched out in the mental game with all these useless predictions, no one can tell anyone how they can race.

The best runners in the province don't use this site? Incorrect. The best runners in the country use this site. Do you know who krs1 is? or coldneck? even bairu has posted here. matt leeder, hughes, jrae, etc all use this site, as do almost all of the guys I know who are racing in the senior boys race next week at ofsaa. There's a difference between the way they use this site and the way someone like dr1500 use this site, but they still do.

[mralexmoher]

Nov 1, 2009 20:17:15 GMT -5 scheibo said:

Nov 1, 2009 13:08:40 GMT -5 slapchop said:

Looking over what you have posted in the past, yes you have said you'd get beaten. I never put myself into predictions, and if I did it would probably be in first. I wouldn't want the mentality of going for anything less than gold. You're a great runner, I just don't want you wasting my time trying to argue with me.

Having the mentality of never going for anything less than gold is unrealistic. One person out of the ~230 that race ofsaa are going to get to gold, and if every single one of them were all gunning for that then they have serious issues setting achievable goals. As a long term goal everyone should hope to achieve some lofty standard like gold, but setting a goal you can't achieve is counterproductive. Harrison probably knows pretty well that he should be up in the top ~10, and and he's in no way limiting himself if he doesn't call himself "for the win". Do you think for one moment if in a race he sees a chance to win he won't take it? While your comment about reaching for the top, not setting limits on oneself and having positive self talk is true, you can't honestly expect you're going to win every single race your in (consider they case where your racing Bekele. would you call yourself for gold there? why not?)

Nov 1, 2009 15:19:31 GMT -5 mralexmoher said:

mabye it's just me, but I've noticed that the best runners in the province don't use this site, just putting that out there. they don't want to get psyched out in the mental game with all these useless predictions, no one can tell anyone how they can race.

The best runners in the province don't use this site? Incorrect. The best runners in the country use this site. Do you know who krs1 is? or coldneck? even bairu has posted here. matt leeder, hughes, jrae, etc all use this site, as do almost all of the guys I know who are racing in the senior boys race next week at ofsaa. There's a difference between the way they use this site and the way someone like dr1500 use this site, but they still do.

well said, i guess i was referring more to people like- whoever dr1500 is.

[slapchop]

Scheibo, I completely agree with you ( without being an a kisser) but seriously, I made a list of predifctions and I don't appreciate people questioning my 'opinions'. Miletime asked me why - I told him why. But all these other posts are ridiculous. Just end this small talk because it has gone too far. I'm not going to question your opinion on realistic and unrealistic goals here - but I will disagree with you that a gold medal over someone who is very sick is not unrealistic at all. If Bekele had a lung infection, then yes - obviously he will win on an easy run.

[waterlooxc]

check out CWOSSA RESULTS.

www.trackdatabase.com/viewresults.php?event_no=111¤t_meet=zzzz_db256

[ayyrab]

JB predictions

1.Eamonn- can't see him not winning the gold
2.Moyer- he won't cramp up again
3.Shawn Masters- the kid really should medal
4.Devan Elijah- only getting stronger and stronger, running at massey doesn't hurt either
5.Harrison Sloan- has been running very well and should be right up there
6.Adam Palamar
7.Abdi Jama
8.Stuart Thibert
9.Chance Jones
10.Brandon Kirkup
Darkhorse: Sayf Al-Khazraji

[scheibo]

Nov 1, 2009 20:31:25 GMT -5 slapchop said:

Scheibo, I completely agree with you ( without being an a kisser) but seriously, I made a list of predifctions and I don't appreciate people questioning my 'opinions'. Miletime asked me why - I told him why. But all these other posts are ridiculous. Just end this small talk because it has gone too far. I'm not going to question your opinion on realistic and unrealistic goals here - but I will disagree with you that a gold medal over someone who is very sick is not unrealistic at all. If Bekele had a lung infection, then yes - obviously he will win on an easy run.

I'm obviously in a hostile mood today after being in sudbury all weekend, so excuse me tearing into you, but:

if you don't want someone questioning your opinions, don't post them on a public forum in a cesspool thread (which once you graduate high school you notice there is a very easy way to find shitty threads: look for the ones that contain "OFSAA" in the title).

As for the situation at hand with eamonn and lung infections or what not, i'll admit I'm not really following high school results anymore, but if sloan is correct and eamonn ran with a lung infection the last time at boyd, then i'm sure he's still on lock for the gold. mo ahmed has had problems (i think relating to lungs?) in the past (im thinking about the picture of him coughing up blood at nats), and he still has managed to finish high up (though the nats example is not a good one, as he ended up coming second, but that was due to confusion about the finish line iirc). Either way, my point being, eamonn is probably still going to be the favorite even with a lung infection, hes that much better than everyone mainly due to his luck with puberty.

also: im retracting my comment about jeremy rae posting on tnf, he apparently has never been on this site in the entirety of his life. my apologies for any confusion they may have caused.

[henry25]

SB Top 20 Predictions

1. Andrew Degroot
2. Daryl Smith
3. Paul Janikowski
4. Tristan Woodfine
5. Thomas Devries
6. Steve Hosier
7. Jay Boychuk
8. Andrew Kowalsky
9. Ross Proudfoot
10. Evan Esselink
11. Jon Martin
12. Abdu Zaghlol
13. Jeff Archer
14. Chris Balestrini
15. Jordan Collison
16. Juan Arango
17. Jeff Stone
18. Connor Darlington
19. Rob Denault
20. Rob Asseltine

Honourable Mentions: Merid Seleshi, Jordan Bierema, Andrew Belanger, Dave Meloche and Luca Geiser

[Run.]

Ryan Sleiman what a fast kid

[thefuture]

Junior boys: top 10

1.Eamonn kichuck( sick or not)
2.chris moyer(kid is amazing)
3.harrison sloan(with gavin out bronze is his.)
4.chance jones(going to stick wit his teammate)
5.shawn masters ( gonna run hard and fall short like last year)
6. adam palamer
7.abdi jamma(smart runner)
8.brandon kirkup(beat moyer once but wont happen again)
9.stuart thibert
10.devon elijah.

[dunbartonjuniorboy]

Junior Boys:
1 Kichuk - hes got gold locked up
2 Moyer - improved a lot from last year, good enough for second
3 Kirkup - peaked at just the right time
4 Sloan - Impressive runner, but will see the podium with his team, not as an individual
5 Palamar - dont hear much about him but results speak for themselves
6 Jones - finishes close to his teamate
7 Masters - very competitive field will push him out of top 5
8 Jama - strong runner
9 Elijah - very close to masters in SWOSSA
10 Thibert - third top ten runner from impressive LOSSA region

teams:
Redmond
Winston
northern
highland dundas
crothers

[s.bisson]

Nov 1, 2009 22:10:01 GMT -5 henry25 said:

SB Top 20 Predictions

1. Andrew Degroot
2. Daryl Smith
3. Paul Janikowski
4. Tristan Woodfine
5. Thomas Devries
6. Steve Hosier
7. Jay Boychuk
8. Andrew Kowalsky
9. Ross Proudfoot
10. Evan Esselink
11. Jon Martin
12. Abdu Zaghlol
13. Jeff Archer
14. Chris Balestrini
15. Jordan Collison
16. Juan Arango
17. Jeff Stone
18. Connor Darlington
19. Rob Denault
20. Rob Asseltine

Honourable Mentions: Merid Seleshi, Jordan Bierema, Andrew Belanger, Dave Meloche and Luca Geiser

im sorry but i just don't see collison finishing worse than 10th. everything else seems like it makes sense

[henry25]

Nov 2, 2009 18:49:14 GMT -5 s.bisson said:

Nov 1, 2009 22:10:01 GMT -5 henry25 said:

SB Top 20 Predictions

1. Andrew Degroot
2. Daryl Smith
3. Paul Janikowski
4. Tristan Woodfine
5. Thomas Devries
6. Steve Hosier
7. Jay Boychuk
8. Andrew Kowalsky
9. Ross Proudfoot
10. Evan Esselink
11. Jon Martin
12. Abdu Zaghlol
13. Jeff Archer
14. Chris Balestrini
15. Jordan Collison
16. Juan Arango
17. Jeff Stone
18. Connor Darlington
19. Rob Denault
20. Rob Asseltine

Honourable Mentions: Merid Seleshi, Jordan Bierema, Andrew Belanger, Dave Meloche and Luca Geiser

im sorry but i just don't see collison finishing worse than 10th. everything else seems like it makes sense

Fair enough. We'll see come OFSAA, i know he's a very strong runner

[Mr.800]

Top 10 Senior boys

1) Daryl Smith (hes a machine)
2) Andrew Degoot (very close behind, within 10 sec.)
3) Tristan Woodfine (Hangs in there but falls just short)
4) Paul Janikowski ( a very smart strong runner)
5) Devries
6) Hosier
7) Kowalsky (hes from massey)
8) Jay Boychuk (his results are impressive)
9) Even Esselick
10) Dave Meloche ( Massey guy)
Darkhorse --- Jordan Collison

Junior boys Top 10

1) Eamon (cant see him losing no matter what... 843 in 3km speaks for itself)
2) Moyer (1st at Pre-ofsaa)
3) Kirkup (close to moyer but gets the bronze)
4) Shawn Masters (very strong runner!)
5) Abdi Jama ( his name is all that has to be said)
6) Sloan (great runner, not too far behind jama)
7) Chance (tries to beat sloan but doesnt have good enough kick)
8) Palamar (results.....)
9) Elijah (very close to shawn at swossa and goes to massey)
10) Ben Flanangon ( impressive win in 1843 at w.e region hes from)
Darkhorse---- Nick Holden ( improved alot from last year and 20:29 at 6.1km course COSSA)

[ayyrab]

Nov 2, 2009 18:49:14 GMT -5 s.bisson said:

Nov 1, 2009 22:10:01 GMT -5 henry25 said:

SB Top 20 Predictions

1. Andrew Degroot
2. Daryl Smith
3. Paul Janikowski
4. Tristan Woodfine
5. Thomas Devries
6. Steve Hosier
7. Jay Boychuk
8. Andrew Kowalsky
9. Ross Proudfoot
10. Evan Esselink
11. Jon Martin
12. Abdu Zaghlol
13. Jeff Archer
14. Chris Balestrini
15. Jordan Collison
16. Juan Arango
17. Jeff Stone
18. Connor Darlington
19. Rob Denault
20. Rob Asseltine

Honourable Mentions: Merid Seleshi, Jordan Bierema, Andrew Belanger, Dave Meloche and Luca Geiser

im sorry but i just don't see collison finishing worse than 10th. everything else seems like it makes sense

those are pretty decent predictions but there is no way meloche from massey wont finish up there, the guy really should crack ten, he's too good not to.

[mpw17]

definitely good predictions, but im going to have to agree with ayrabon his comment, also just by looking at some of the southern ontario results and mqauid results i think jeff stone should do a little better than 17th...

[coachfaulds]

A little early to know for sure but the weather forecast looks good for Saturday. Sunny with a high of 10C. It also says 25km/h winds which might have an impact on some of the skinny thoroughbreads vs. the strength runners. The rain expected Wednesday and Thursday will make that downhill section nasty.

[whamoh]

Oct 30, 2009 13:57:10 GMT -5 wottlecap said:

DeVries for the Sr. Boys Gold.

The kid is a machine.

His crisp librarian spectacles will point out the most direct, efficient way to complete the course...Not to mention the fact that upon first impressions he appears a young boy scout... This underestimation tactic Thomas has planned his entire life will be unmatched by the likes of DeGroot, Woodfine, Smith, and the others who so many have so foolishly placed above him in these rankings.

So watch out all you Esse-lovers and King-wagoners, cause Thomas "The Tank Engine" DeVries is ready to mop the floor with everyone in his path come Boyd this year...

this is a very interesting prediction, and i must agree.
even with a funny nick-name like Thomas "the tank Engine" DeVries, he is a major threat to the front runners such as Woodfine, DeGroot, Smith and "the Jan Man Kowski".
i think this is the first time ever that a boy scout such as DeVries will win OFSAA.

I also must add that, Evan Esselink, Ross Proudfoot, Abdu Zaghlol, Jordan Collison, Rob Denault and Dave Meloche will all be guys to look out for as any one of them can crack the 5 if they have a good race.

P.S. dose any one know what happened to zain ahmed?

[boycey]

Zain is running for UofT, and did quite well in the couple of races he ran this season (*gasp* looking for results outside of OFSAA!)

[loverunning]

Who wants to bet on Massey's score being over or under 50 points for Senior Boys. I think they got a real good shot.

[edavenport]

Nov 3, 2009 11:37:19 GMT -5 boycey said:

Zain is running for UofT, and did quite well in the couple of races he ran this season (*gasp* looking for results outside of OFSAA!)

This is simply untrue.

Zain Ahmed for OFSAA gold. Degro- I mean Whamoh should be scared.

[firecramp]

Jeff Stone will be top 3 in the senior race.

you heard it here first!

[phibrizzo]

Nov 3, 2009 11:50:36 GMT -5 loverunning said:

Who wants to bet on Massey's score being over or under 50 points for Senior Boys. I think they got a real good shot.

I wouldn't count on it. Daryl has the flu.

[whamoh]

Nov 3, 2009 11:54:01 GMT -5 edavenport said:

Nov 3, 2009 11:37:19 GMT -5 boycey said:

Zain is running for UofT, and did quite well in the couple of races he ran this season (*gasp* looking for results outside of OFSAA!)

This is simply untrue.

Zain Ahmed for OFSAA gold. Degro- I mean Whamoh should be scared.

ok i said it befor,

I AM NOT DEGROOT. i know him but i am not him, he has not been on this site since OFSAA track, i dont even know if he knows i keep talking about him.....?

so eat it Ethan Davenport..........you Hacker

i just think degroot is a great runner and should be known

[theking]

actually whamoh your wrong. Jeff Stone is the TRUE great runner. darryl smith has the flu, stone ftw.. also "firecramp" your quote under your login name is wrong. Jeff Stone is never a coward, not even on the starting line.

[edavenport]

Nov 3, 2009 12:25:36 GMT -5 whamoh said:

Nov 3, 2009 11:54:01 GMT -5 edavenport said:

This is simply untrue.

Zain Ahmed for OFSAA gold. Degro- I mean Whamoh should be scared.

ok i said it befor,

I AM NOT DEGROOT. i know him but i am not him, he has not been on this site since OFSAA track, i dont even know if he knows i keep talking about him.....?

so eat it Ethan Davenport..........you Hacker

i just think degroot is a great runner and should be known

When a post, of such critical magnitude, comes my way it is instinctive nature to immediately rush to my own defense-
And so I will take a break from my calculus studies to now PROVE a tnf north account identity instead of a trigonometric one...

Whamoh's first mistake: his account name.

proof: Ethan Davenport and Andrew Degroot's facebook wall-to-wall (something that has recently been legalized as valid evidence in court)
Andrew Degroot- WHAM-OH
September 15 at 9:35pm · Comment

Whamoh's second mistake: calling Ethan a "hacker" in his last vicious post.

proof: Once again an allusion to a past facebook wall-to-wall post that clearly links the Whamoh identity to Andrew Degroot.
Andrew Degroot- yo hacker.
thanks for NOT training with me man now i'm gunna lose..
ur such a frozen eddy
August 24 at 12:33pm · Comment

Case closed. Have I gone to far? Nope.
On tnf north- there's no such thing as too far.

[1lapatatime]

8:27 3K 14:45 5K How can you put Tristan woodfine out of medal position?

[lukesteer93]

except xavier king didn't qualify..
can't speak for dyaln brown