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Post by ronb on Apr 24, 2010 12:11:41 GMT -5
Reads the headline on Page A3 in this morning's Times Colonist.
As of Friday afternoon, 13,210 had registered for either the 10K., or the 1.5 K. kids run. Previous record from last year was
12,600. This is the 21st year for the TC 10K. Somebody must care about distance running... Media coverage has been outstanding, with not only several months of leadup coverage in the paper, but TV and radio reporting as well. The guy who does the weather on the local TV station has been updating the forecast for the Sunday start of 8:00 am for each of the last several nights, just so the runners and spectators know what to expect.
I haven't seen much of an elite list, but Simon Whitfield will probably be one of the favourites, along with several of the Kenyans. Good racing to all !
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Post by francisccm on Apr 24, 2010 15:55:10 GMT -5
Thats really cool. Simon will be up there for sure. It will be good to see what happens.
My friend Kibet Rutto is out west now too for this race. Also Willy Kimosop the defending champ will definitely be up there.
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Post by ronb on Apr 24, 2010 17:06:21 GMT -5
For those who haven't looked up the article (maybe someone can link), there is a lot of stuff in here that relates closely to other threads regarding Top Down / Bottom Up, etc...
When we started up the TC 10K 21 years ago, we also started up the Victoria International Running Society, to manage the event, and distribute the profits... Over the years, we tried to reinforce the link between recreational running and elite distance running. The profits from this race have always provided the seed money for the Victoria International Track Classic, and other such events on the Island. At one stage a road-running group tried to take ownership --- we repulsed that attempt. Then the newspaper wanted to have ownership, and again we talked them out of that... So a committee that is very involved in elite areas of distance running has maintained the 10K., and the profits that have ensued...
Dare I say, it's a perfect model of Bottom to Top principles and programming that should always work in the best long term interests of our sport and our athletes and our communities...
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Post by ahortian on Apr 24, 2010 17:52:15 GMT -5
Kibet Rutto....that guy is an animal...I would put my money on him...then again I am not a rich man for a reason. Naa I think he will take it.
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Post by francisccm on Apr 24, 2010 20:34:16 GMT -5
Lol @ Adam... I guess we will find out tomorrow morning!
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Post by francisccm on Apr 25, 2010 9:32:10 GMT -5
If someone from out west could post the results here when they find out after the race that might be good.
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Post by maser on Apr 25, 2010 10:48:34 GMT -5
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Post by pg on Apr 25, 2010 10:48:44 GMT -5
results up on raceheadquarters
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Post by maser on Apr 25, 2010 10:52:01 GMT -5
top 50
1 1/753 1/86 M3034 4 29:35 2:58 Kip Kangogo Lethbridge AB CANADA
2 2/753 1/85 M2024 1 29:50 2:59 Willy Kimosop Lethbridge AB CANADA
3 3/753 2/85 M2024 3 29:58 3:00 Kibet Rutto Iten KE KEN
4 4/753 2/86 M3034 10 30:00 3:00 Scott Simpson Victoria BC CANADA
5 5/753 3/86 M3034 70 30:12 3:02 Simon Whitfield Victoria BC
6 6/753 4/86 M3034 2 30:39 3:04 Steven Osaduik Langley BC CANADA
7 7/753 1/126 M2529 8 30:39 3:04 Kristopher Swanson Victoria BC CANADA
8 8/753 1/99 M3539 9 30:40 3:04 James Finlayson Victoria BC CANADA
9 9/753 5/86 M3034 27 30:41 3:05 David Jackson Victoria BC CANADA
10 10/753 6/86 M3034 63 30:43 3:05 Colin Fewer Paradise NL CANADA
11 11/753 7/86 M3034 28 30:49 3:05 Jay MacDonald Vancouver BC CANADA
12 12/753 2/99 M3539 26 30:54 3:06 Oliver Utting Burnaby BC CANADA
13 13/753 1/96 M4044 24 31:23 3:09 Mark Bomba Coquitlam BC CANADA
14 14/753 2/126 M2529 25 31:30 3:09 Matt Pieterson Victoria BC CANADA
15 15/753 8/86 M3034 7 31:45 3:11 Todd Howard Victoria BC CANADA
16 16/753 3/85 M2024 5 31:58 3:12 Nixon Kiprotich Victoria BC CANADA
17 17/753 4/85 M2024 22 32:12 3:14 Willy Langat Victoria BC CANADA
18 18/753 3/99 M3539 23 32:16 3:14 Jason Loutitt Squamish BC CANADA
19 19/753 5/85 M2024 21 32:18 3:14 Ed Kangogo Lethbridge AB CANADA
20 20/753 6/85 M2024 6 32:23 3:15 Dylan Gant Burnaby BC CANADA
21 21/753 4/99 M3539 34 32:29 3:15 Craig Odermatt Victoria BC CANADA
22 22/753 3/126 M2529 30 32:46 3:17 Nicholas Walker Victoria BC CANADA
23 23/753 7/85 M2024 32 32:53 3:18 Shawn Nelson Victoria BC CANADA
24 24/753 9/86 M3034 38 33:00 3:18 Shane Ruljancich Victoria BC CANADA
25 25/753 5/99 M3539 66 33:07 3:19 Ian Hallam Victoria BC CANADA
26 26/753 4/126 M2529 69 33:09 3:19 Adam O'Meara Victoria BC
27 27/753 5/126 M2529 39 33:21 3:21 Mark Nelson Victoria BC CANADA
28 1/151 1/29 F2529 62 33:25 3:21 Karolina Jarzynska Pozna PO POL
29 28/753 1/85 M4549 36 33:32 3:22 Kevin McGinnis Ravensdale WA USA
30 29/753 6/126 M2529 42 33:43 3:23 Keith Mills Victoria BC CANADA
31 30/753 1/79 M--19 271 33:56 3:24 Carlos Lesser Victoria BC
32 31/753 7/126 M2529 37 34:12 3:26 Jeriah Griswold Seattle WA USA
33 32/753 8/126 M2529 35 34:21 3:27 David Roulston Vancouver BC CANADA
34 33/753 6/99 M3539 114 34:31 3:28 Laurence Coogan Victoria BC CANADA
35 34/753 2/85 M4549 67 34:33 3:28 Kevin Searle Shawnigan Lake BC CANADA
36 2/151 1/17 F4044 12 34:36 3:28 Lisa Harvey Calgary AB CANADA
37 35/753 3/85 M4549 261 34:37 3:28 Robert Hasegawa Victoria BC CANADA
38 36/753 8/85 M2024 234 34:38 3:28 Derek Westra-Luney Victoria BC CANADA
39 3/151 1/23 F3034 11 34:43 3:29 Kristina Rody Burnaby BC CANADA
40 37/753 9/126 M2529 268 34:45 3:29 Trevor Feeney Burnaby BC CANADA
41 38/753 10/126 M2529 48 34:52 3:30 Leif Baradoy Victoria BC CANADA
42 39/753 2/96 M4044 53 34:56 3:30 Bruce Martell Victoria BC CANADA
43 40/753 10/86 M3034 191 34:56 3:30 Ian Perriman Victoria BC CANADA
44 4/151 2/17 F4044 13 34:58 3:30 Lucy Smith Sidney BC CANADA
45 41/753 9/85 M2024 272 35:07 3:31 Scott Dagnall Victoria BC
46 5/151 2/29 F2529 14 35:17 3:32 Natasha Wodak Port Moody BC CANADA
47 42/753 11/126 M2529 43 35:21 3:33 Kamal Rae Victoria BC CANADA
48 43/753 7/99 M3539 168 35:29 3:33 Richard Light Duncan BC CANADA
49 44/753 4/85 M4549 51 35:29 3:33 Ernie Lucas Campbell River BC CANADA
50 45/753 10/85 M2024 46 35:29 3:33 Lowell Rockliffe Saanichton BC CANADA
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Post by HHH on Apr 25, 2010 12:49:22 GMT -5
top 50 1 1/753 1/86 M3034 4 29:35 2:58 Kip Kangogo Lethbridge AB CANADA 2 2/753 1/85 M2024 1 29:50 2:59 Willy Kimosop Lethbridge AB CANADA 3 3/753 2/85 M2024 3 29:58 3:00 Kibet Rutto Iten KE KEN 4 4/753 2/86 M3034 10 30:00 3:00 Scott Simpson Victoria BC CANADA 5 5/753 3/86 M3034 70 30:12 3:02 Simon Whitfield Victoria BC 6 6/753 4/86 M3034 2 30:39 3:04 Steven Osaduik Langley BC CANADA 7 7/753 1/126 M2529 8 30:39 3:04 Kristopher Swanson Victoria BC CANADA 3 Running Room sponsored athletes in the top 10, nice  Huge congrats to Kip Kangogo, just in case anyone thought he might be done!!! |
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Post by HHH on Apr 25, 2010 12:57:22 GMT -5
Tough result for Scott Simpson too. 30:00. One second!!!
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Post by SI on Apr 25, 2010 13:07:59 GMT -5
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Post by journeyman on Apr 25, 2010 13:20:19 GMT -5
8 John Castellano Scarborough ON 1/ 45:M15-18 M# 8 29:27 4:44
Decent time for under 18! Go Johnny!
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Post by Steller on Apr 25, 2010 13:28:48 GMT -5
Dear HHH:
RE: "3 Running Room sponsored athletes in the top 10"...
just curious, does RR provide kit/shoes etc. or also kit + $$$?
Also, since shoe companies pay good money and merchandise to represent themselves in the athletes, I wonder why all race results also don't also feature the associated sponsor in the results? (I know some do listed results do, but this certainly is not standardized).
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Post by SI on Apr 25, 2010 13:30:04 GMT -5
8 John Castellano Scarborough ON 1/ 45:M15-18 M# 8 29:27 4:44 Decent time for under 18! Go Johnny! 12 15-18 year olds from that race would have cracked the top 50 today. Can you imagine what people would be saying about "distance running" then? Some of the 19-29 year olds would have been in their last year of high school too. Keep in mind that many of them would have been right in the middle of spring track season (although some may have been eliminated by then). |
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Post by oasis on Apr 25, 2010 14:07:43 GMT -5
thanks SI for posting that, all I can say is wow, if I were to see race results like that now would say there is nothing wrong with distance running in Canada, agree with SI in that quality over quantity what happened then to our quality? realized the theories of why have been hashed around here but can only say it's discouraging to see where we have digressed to in 26yrs if we had this amount of quality now it would put some "B" and "C" level Kenyans out of business in road races SI stopped posting this stuff, too depressing!  |
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Post by oasis on Apr 25, 2010 14:09:31 GMT -5
top 50 1 1/753 1/86 M3034 4 29:35 2:58 Kip Kangogo Lethbridge AB CANADA 2 2/753 1/85 M2024 1 29:50 2:59 Willy Kimosop Lethbridge AB CANADA 3 3/753 2/85 M2024 3 29:58 3:00 Kibet Rutto Iten KE KEN 4 4/753 2/86 M3034 10 30:00 3:00 Scott Simpson Victoria BC CANADA 5 5/753 3/86 M3034 70 30:12 3:02 Simon Whitfield Victoria BC 6 6/753 4/86 M3034 2 30:39 3:04 Steven Osaduik Langley BC CANADA 7 7/753 1/126 M2529 8 30:39 3:04 Kristopher Swanson Victoria BC CANADA 3 Running Room sponsored athletes in the top 10, nice Huge congrats to Kip Kangogo, just in case anyone thought he might be done!!! HHH, who are the 3 running room athletes you mentioned? |
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Post by francisccm on Apr 25, 2010 14:19:06 GMT -5
Yeah depth in Canadian distance running talent isnt what it used to be.. Thats because elite running isn't as popular these days or lucrative for most westerners... That is the only point your proving. Dont bash the race because of it.
I think getting more people out and getting fit is an achievement and helps with the ability to try and put something back into the elite sport as they are doing. The more non - elites there are running the more the elite community benefits. Otherwise distance running would be a lost cause.
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Post by HHH on Apr 25, 2010 14:22:54 GMT -5
Dear HHH: RE: "3 Running Room sponsored athletes in the top 10"... just curious, does RR provide kit/shoes etc. or also kit + $$$? Also, since shoe companies pay good money and merchandise to represent themselves in the athletes, I wonder why all race results also don't also feature the associated sponsor in the results? (I know some do listed results do, but this certainly is not standardized). Hi Stellar, We do mostly shoes and clothes but also help out with entry fees and some expenses on an athlete by race basis. This year we are also offering a performance bonus to our guys/girls for top 3 results at a few of the bigger road races we view important based upon advertising potential for us. It's a start, of course there is always more we can do... Agree with you on featuring the associated sponsor or clubs in the results, that would be some nice additional advertising for the sponsors (and it's not just us, there a lot of people doing some great stuff right now to try and support our faster guys and girls). |
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Post by HHH on Apr 25, 2010 14:24:59 GMT -5
3 Running Room sponsored athletes in the top 10, nice Huge congrats to Kip Kangogo, just in case anyone thought he might be done!!! HHH, who are the 3 running room athletes you mentioned? Kip Kangogo and Kris Swanson are two of our year round sponsored athletes here in Canada and we are also helping out Kibet while he is racing here in Canada. He had a long trip over from Kenya this week so I expect he'll bounce back nicely for the next race! |
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Post by pq on Apr 25, 2010 14:37:00 GMT -5
Matt, is the elite sponsorship thing your doing? I know RR tends to get a lot of flak for promoting the whole gallowalking thing, and I don't remember hearing of any support for top class runners until you started putting on races the last couple of years.
Thanks, BTW
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Post by francisccm on Apr 25, 2010 14:51:07 GMT -5
Yeah huge congrats to Kip, he hasn't busted a 10k like that in a while I guess. I always thought he was better at the longer distances. Probably still is! I hope it was just an off day for Kibet with the travel and everything, his workouts have been going fine . As ive heard from different sources. |
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Post by SI on Apr 25, 2010 14:51:27 GMT -5
Yeah depth in Canadian distance running talent isnt what it used to be.. Thats because elite running isn't as popular these days or lucrative for most westerners... That is the only point your proving. Dont bash the race because of it. No one is "bashing the race". Calm down. I am providing a bit of perspective because I believe that just because tens of thousands of "runners" "take part in" "an event", it says absolutely nothing about the state, or the future, of "distance running". At least I care and am interested about the people in the front. The majority of the people in the back of these "races" couldn't care less. Getting crowds out to big city "events" has never been a problem. It does nothing for the sport and the quality just keeps declining. You only have to look at NY or Boston to see that. |
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Post by ronb on Apr 25, 2010 14:55:26 GMT -5
Firstly, in response to SI, "distance running", in my mind, is a very inclusive category.
Both quality and quantity are important factors towards our future... It might be worth noting that we have always considered the TC 10K course as being slower than the Sun Run and other "fast courses" by about 20 to 30 seconds, depending on the ocean breezes. And it was breezy along the water this morning, not exactly sure how much the runners felt it....Perhaps Bomba or others will chip in on that, at some point...
Don't forget, I was around for the good old days as well, and I think events such as the TC 10K, are important factors if we wish to head to the good new days. How can it be bad to have a whole city turned on to 10K of movement, worshipping both the elites and fitness and family and community values and getting kids interested and involved... Not to mention providing $$$ for elites in terms of prize money and sponsorship, and funding support for the track meets. Surely, that is all good stuff.
This morning's Times Colonist (pre-race, of course) had interesting and excellent coverage on pages a01, a03, d01, d06, and d07. Anyone who takes a bit of time to review these stories and the various points and perspectives presented will be a bit impressed with the bottom to top approach of this event. A lot of sold 20/20 vision principles are in there...
Stories and photos are starting to show up on today's race at <times-colonist.com>
The next printed version of the paper isn't until Tuesday, but there will be dozens of stories and pictures and results circulating all around Victoria and the Island in that paper... In the time the online reading will be fun...
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Post by francisccm on Apr 25, 2010 14:59:10 GMT -5
SI: If not the race then you are bashing something unnecessarily. I completely disagree with you. New York now has a massive elite budget for Americans because of their numbers...
And the crowds have been growing.. I think you can have both, and that there is no connection to the quality. A lot of those people towards the back still are in awe of the fast guys.. Ryan Hall is almost a household name and Meb became a celebrity on television after his win. I would say that they care and I wouldn't say that crowds do nothing for the sport. Why aren't top elites showing up at small road races then nowadays like the one you posted?
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Post by HHH on Apr 25, 2010 15:04:02 GMT -5
Matt, is the elite sponsorship thing your doing? I know RR tends to get a lot of flak for promoting the whole gallowalking thing, and I don't remember hearing of any support for top class runners until you started putting on races the last couple of years. Thanks, BTW Yes. When I started working it was really just myself being sponsored and a few others. I took over the sponsored athlete program a couple of years ago and have grown it to what it is today, of course with the permission and support from the Stantons. They are happy with how things are going and continue to allow me to grow it. I don't think it's that they didn't want to do it in the past or support elites, it's just that they were too busy to do it and needed someone else to step in. It's not my actual job, I just sort of fit it all in. Now that my own competitive racing is pretty much done, i get to live vicariously through our guys and girls and also the kids I am coaching |
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Post by SI on Apr 25, 2010 15:22:27 GMT -5
SI: If not the race then you are bashing something unnecessarily. Then tell me what mysterious thing I am bashing. Just because I disagree with Ron's premise doesn't follow that I am "bashing" the race. Back away and calm down. It looks like you have lost a bit of persepctive because you are too close to the situation. Why aren't top elites showing up at small road races then nowadays like the one you posted? For the life of me, I have no idea if you are agreeing with me there or not. No clue what your point is. |
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Post by roseyrunner on Apr 25, 2010 15:45:20 GMT -5
SI - Those race results look pretty crazy. Was it a certified course???
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Post by francisccm on Apr 25, 2010 15:49:08 GMT -5
It was pretty obvious that I was referring to your statement about the crowds saying that they do "nothing for the sport". Also since crowds are important to this race and many others, you are therefore not agreeing with their principle. I was just providing a different "perspective" to you as well....
I am not really "close" to the crowds at all, I just disagree with you. As I believe the fact that large crowds are coming out is very promising for the future also. Someone just needs to take those possibilities and roll with it to make the link between the public and the elites so that the sport can benefit.
You werent reading if you dont know what I was talking about as you seemed to have no opinion on the rest of the examples in my post which were directly before and related to my question. I was saying crowds help bring and support elites as an example since elites dont show up at smaller races anymore... No support...
I thought it made sense.. and it was a rhetorical question...
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Post by SI on Apr 25, 2010 16:00:22 GMT -5
According to your theory, increased crowds leads to increased money in the sport which leads to a stronger sport. Not in the case of this race, I'm afraid. And sorry, still don't have a clue what you are talking about the elites and the small races. The number of elites don't exist at the level they used to so how can they possibly show up at the smaller races. That level of elite isn't even showing up at the larger races. You have everything back assward.
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