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Post by newf on Nov 21, 2009 23:46:27 GMT -5
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Post by runner93 on Nov 22, 2009 0:11:34 GMT -5
my buddy (midget boys) has his eyes set on Kevin Sullivan's OFSAA record of 1:54. I won't name him, b/c that would just not be fair for him. But him and atleast 2 other guys will go sub 1:58 imo. And I think Sleiman is a 3k guy. 100% sure hes talking about liam wilson. btw please stop repping wossa runners... |
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Post by bystander on Nov 22, 2009 8:43:37 GMT -5
In defense of Dr1500 here are the Sr Rankings from last year for the 800 (top 18 or sub 1:56). The ones in BOLD are returning. Among Juniors only Mohamed, Kyle and Rob would make the list so they are contenders but anyone on this list could win next year. Personally I'd give the edge to Miedema based on experience. Experience? The guy's only been running seriously for a year and a half now. He's also the only one who made the 800m final (of this group) at National Juniors. He should have been in the final at OFSAA if he had run a smarter heat - something he learned for Nat.Jnr.(the experience factor). The only other finalist (and he went to World Youth although didn't compete due to injury) was BJ (and coachc isn't likely to put him out there for obvious reasons). None of this means that others can't step up to displace these two - OFSAA is over 6 months away afterall. |
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Post by bystander on Nov 22, 2009 9:05:53 GMT -5
Is stupid a synonym for East Ontrario Bias? 3, possibily 4 people ever have done that at OFSAA. No Grade 11 has ever done it (not even Sullivan). Swift; as for getting close indoors - Ryan Finn ran 1.51 indoor (the age-group record) in G11 , that's not exactly turned out to be a prognosticator for long-term development in the event (has he ever even broken 1.50?!). Why would anyone be preparing for OFSAA Track by trying to run that fast (1.50) in G11 indoors?. If you can run that fast indoors and can't take 2-3 seconds off that outdoors (injury/sickness aside), then you need a new coach. So that means being capable of running 1.48 outdoors (G11), which means a career of 1.45 or faster, or someone has left it in HS. Heck I still wonder (can't understand) why guys like Sully and Brannen could run times as Juniors that they couldn't even take over 6/10ths of a second off of as Seniors (1.47.64 - 1.47.06/1.46.60 - 1.46.00). As for predicting times at OFSAA - what a silly notion (especially this far out) - no one knows what the conditions will like be on that day (i.e. very windy) or what health (sick/injured) an athlete might be at the time. All that you do is put pressure on an athlete (if they want to do that themselves that's their prerogative) which makes THEM (not you) look silly if the "prediction" doesn't happen. So why would you even do that to someone you might consider a friend or want to be"repping". |
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Post by 4thrunnerpressure on Nov 22, 2009 11:44:07 GMT -5
4oom MB- Yazin from Pickering or Khalil Arnold from MCVI they were neck and neck outdoor last year but Yazin won. Longer distances you can not count out Matt from Mcvi
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Post by andrin on Nov 22, 2009 13:14:03 GMT -5
Going from year-to-year, it is hard to say that there is any huge difference in the quality of runners' times for any given event. There are a few notable exceptions but I'm only generalizing here, of course.
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Post by bekele2617 on Nov 22, 2009 13:32:06 GMT -5
I wouldn't call dr1500's pred that far out there and i dont know why everyone is chirping him for them. They are his opinion and should be respected as with everyone other persons pred on this thread. Its very unlikely that a grade 11 will win the 800 this year as there are many strong grade 12 runners as well as some victory lappers such as: Paul Lamarra James Denny Paul Janikowski Merid Seleshi Chris Mediema BJ Cunliffe Andrew Cackette All of which ran in the 154-155 range last year. That being said it is much too early to be predicting medalist now. I can quarantee you that Mo Soulieman will win the 800m in sub 1:50. you read that right, sub 1:50. call it an East Ontario bias, but i see it happening Wow. That's a pretty big guarantee...with a Q?...definitely not for quality. Sub 1:50 is nothing to throw around especially when you still have 4 seconds to find...4 seconds! It's not out of the question for him, but it's called steady progression- there are many intermediates on the way to this barrier...it doesn't just appear because you started doing workouts 3 months earlier this year. It's okay to have that goal in mind, but it's also important to have patience and a long term plan with it... |
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Post by eight-hundred on Nov 22, 2009 17:16:44 GMT -5
I can quarantee you that Mo Soulieman will win the 800m in sub 1:50. you read that right, sub 1:50. call it an East Ontario bias, but i see it happening Wow. That's a pretty big guarantee...with a Q?...definitely not for quality. Sub 1:50 is nothing to throw around especially when you still have 4 seconds to find...4 seconds! It's not out of the question for him, but it's called steady progression- there are many intermediates on the way to this barrier...it doesn't just appear because you started doing workouts 3 months earlier this year. It's okay to have that goal in mind, but it's also important to have patience and a long term plan with it... I understand where the skepticism is coming from, but he ran that with little to no mileage, and basically no training. he has been training pretty hard the last 4 months from what ive heard. Im sticking with my initial prediction, as crazy as it may be. |
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Post by wottlecap on Nov 22, 2009 19:09:15 GMT -5
I'm sure Mohamed has trained very hard to reach this goal. I'm not saying that he won't reach it, but things like this need time, patience, and a proper haircut. For cripes sakes. On another note: At around 2:12 in this video it can be seen that our "soon to be" Sub 1:50 hero simply drops off the track and appears to enter REM sleep instantly... www.afesports.com/flash/robdyouthchamp1500m.htmlCould it be that the future legend was just poorly trained? Had an off day? Or could it have something to do with Mo experiencing Sudden Instant Sleep Syndrome (Youth) or what some commonly refer to as (SISSY)? He doesn't have the balls to run that. His atrocious positive split when he ran that time was proof that this guy just isn't experienced enough to tackle such a barrier. Think before you post such preposterous trash. |
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Post by xc4ever on Nov 22, 2009 19:38:38 GMT -5
Watch out for james Denny in the 800m he is no joke and he has a better kick than anyone because he has more balls than anyone he will run sub 1:52 and win ofsaa and he has the endurance to do it in heats and finals at ofsaa and for all you out there who think that this group of guys is not strong give your head a shake. I can count atleast 10 guys who have a very good shot at going sub 1:55 if they have not already.
Denny, Cunliffe, Deanult, Miedema, Janikowsky, Dillion, Mohamed, Cakette and Sleshi it has never been this deep ever
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Post by eight-hundred on Nov 22, 2009 20:01:04 GMT -5
I'm sure Mohamed has trained very hard to reach this goal. I'm not saying that he won't reach it, but things like this need time, patience, and a proper haircut. For cripes sakes. On another note: At around 2:12 in this video it can be seen that our "soon to be" Sub 1:50 hero simply drops off the track and appears to enter REM sleep instantly... www.afesports.com/flash/robdyouthchamp1500m.htmlCould it be that the future legend was just poorly trained? Had an off day? Or could it have something to do with Mo experiencing Sudden Instant Sleep Syndrome (Youth) or what some commonly refer to as (SISSY)? He doesn't have the balls to run that. His atrocious positive split when he ran that time was proof that this guy just isn't experienced enough to tackle such a barrier. Think before you post such preposterous trash. congrats! what the hell did that video proof? the dude had some issue on that day?? but thats besides the point, the topic was 800m, so where the heck does a video of him passing out in a 1500m race fit into this discussion of whether he could break 1:50 for an 800m race, your post was "preposterous trash." I hate fueling this fire of OFSAA predictions, which are absurd to make for an event almost 8 months, but i standby my my opinion. |
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Post by limestonemiler on Nov 22, 2009 22:33:42 GMT -5
I can see all 8 competitors in the final going under 1:55 based on the depth of the upcoming runners this year... Yes a lot of the runners on the list i gave previously did not show they can run both a qualifier and final in the same day as all but one made the final last year. You're completely outta the loop bud. They will all prolly go sub 1:55 sometime or another during the season, but in the final I see 3 going < 1:55 and 2 maybe 3 going > 2:00. Happens every year. Feel free to quote me on this in 8 months time. And the fact most of them didn't make it outta the prelims last year isn't helping your argument at all. |
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Post by canadarunner on Nov 23, 2009 5:58:26 GMT -5
For an 800 it is way too early to see who is going to be a medal contender until indoors start. After last years indoor season it was pretty easy to see who was going to be in contention in the top 5. Of course there were upsets but its all based on training and mental stamina, burning out injury ect. However based on last years results and based on the ways these people ran(i raced many of them over the course of last years Track season indoor & outdoor. My predictions for top 5 800m.. 1/2 Seleshi/ Janikowski(upset Denny go titans!) hes got a big kick but he never beat me  jokes man love you. <3 According to last year, the best juniors/first year seniors were all pretty close and these guys seem the most consistent 3/4 Cunliffe/Mediema(did he stay back?) According to last year, based on consistency again as its usually the most important principle in running middle distance, Mediema was right up there when it mattered most. obviously another breakout kid he only has room for improvement next year. BENCH PRESS it works man! Plus i have to give a biased contention to BJ. Everyone knows he inconsistent but when he shows up to a race hes a tough racer and smart. If he can break his Asthma funk he has a good chance to be on the podium this year. Btw he was beating me in most of the workouts early on in the season last year and was not more than a stride behind later on near the end so it goes to show you his potential. NOTABLES Cackette- What can i say about this kid? hes the worst training partner ever, he rarely shows up to workouts, and hes a quick mofacka! If this guy can get his act together and train on a consistent basis he will win hands down. He has natural talent pumping through his veins and he pisses excellence..need i say more? Lamarra...ya dont know this guy well enough to comment maybe someone else can elaborate? Possible first year Seniors- Okay i know everyones talking about how mohammed souleiman will run 1:50 First of its ridiculous and he shouldnt be aiming to be running at a varsity level at gr 11. Look at the people who have run fast when they were young.. most have burnt out or not improved. Seriously 1:50 is not happening and if it does he better have a backup plan where he doesnt crash in his racing career. aim for 1:52 and go from there. Its hard to run a 4 second pb over the course of one season. especially when you are already training at a level that is above high school (club level). Once your times start to improve you can only PB by so much the next time. Last year i went from running 2:00 to 1:54. Does that mean i set my goal at 1:48? No! becuase i sucked at track in gr 10! Last year i only beat my pb by 1 second as opposed to 6 but i still ran well because i was more consistent. So aim to have a consistent season rather than one where you only run fast once! |
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Post by Flat-out on Nov 23, 2009 17:46:05 GMT -5
If La Marra's beard comes back he's got it in the bag.
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Post by bg16 on Nov 23, 2009 18:16:04 GMT -5
This thread is the reason people in BC hate Ontarians. 8 pages of track predictions in November.
You guys need to get it together.
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Post by lukesteer93 on Nov 23, 2009 23:15:02 GMT -5
this is a track forum, what else do we have to do?
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Post by xc4ever on Nov 24, 2009 22:08:57 GMT -5
great Point
Don't ever count out Denny in the 800 or the 1500 he is mentally stronger than anyone and the 3000m is gunna be the race to watch im going to say hoosier wins it should be seeing denny and hoosier race in the 1500m at cossa and woodfine and Hoosier at east and watch out for archer in steeple and some other east guys
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Post by cda on Nov 25, 2009 10:27:27 GMT -5
great Point Don't ever count out Denny in the 800 or the 1500 he is mentally stronger than anyone and the 3000m is gunna be the race to watch im going to say hoosier wins it should be seeing denny and hoosier race in the 1500m at cossa and woodfine and Hoosier at east and watch out for archer in steeple and some other east guys I feel that Hoosier will be far too focused on winning the 1951 state basketball championship to be much of a threat. |
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Post by limestonemiler on Nov 25, 2009 14:57:42 GMT -5
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Post by rdrunner on Nov 25, 2009 15:50:15 GMT -5
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Post by gaelic on Nov 30, 2009 15:00:18 GMT -5
I'm gonna say Belanger could be a top 6 contender for the 1500.
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Post by miletime on Nov 30, 2009 20:18:04 GMT -5
don't count out kyle grieve from richview collegiate. He was the junior champion at OFSAA last year for the 800m.
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Post by lukesteer93 on Nov 30, 2009 22:53:09 GMT -5
also 2nd in the 1500, breaking the original record by 6 seconds
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Post by dr1500 on Nov 30, 2009 22:59:49 GMT -5
I'm gonna say Belanger could be a top 6 contender for the 1500. Christmas only comes once a year, in case you forgot. |
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Post by B-rads on Dec 1, 2009 19:41:29 GMT -5
senior boys 3000m top 5.
1. Tristan woodfine
2. daryl smith
3. Thomas devries
4. evan esselink
5. Stephen hosier
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Post by B-rads on Dec 1, 2009 20:51:53 GMT -5
my buddy (midget boys) has his eyes set on Kevin Sullivan's OFSAA record of 1:54. I won't name him, b/c that would just not be fair for him. But him and atleast 2 other guys will go sub 1:58 imo. And I think Sleiman is a 3k guy. 100% sure hes talking about liam wilson. btw please stop repping wossa runners... runner93 its not like if an athlete is from wossaa they aren't as fast as a guy from another region there have been athletes from wossaa that have gone very far and won ofsaa before. so just cause this liam Wilson guy is from wossaa doesn't mean he can't win, we can predict who we want |
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Post by gaelic on Dec 1, 2009 21:33:29 GMT -5
I'm gonna say Belanger could be a top 6 contender for the 1500. Christmas only comes once a year, in case you forgot. think what you want, the guy dropped a 3:55 as a grade 11 and was unfortunately injured last season. after a cautious cross country season he'll be looking to make a comeback in the spring. |
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Post by dr1500 on Dec 2, 2009 11:25:36 GMT -5
senior boys 3000m top 5. 1. Tristan woodfine 2. daryl smith 3. Thomas devries 4. evan esselink 5. Stephen hosier Now thats a solid prediction, looks decent. |
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Post by dr1500 on Dec 2, 2009 11:26:30 GMT -5
Christmas only comes once a year, in case you forgot. think what you want, the guy dropped a 3:55 as a grade 11 and was unfortunately injured last season. after a cautious cross country season he'll be looking to make a comeback in the spring. True enough i guess he has a chance, but a lot of gr 11's have done that or better. |
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Post by johnwells on Dec 2, 2009 12:29:14 GMT -5
400 - Mike Stawiki or Ryan Dus...this will be a tough battle for the both of them...definatley the most talented out there. their times are ridiculous!!!!! you heard it here first
800 - Brooks Reeve --> this kid is a beast, running 400m repeats at 50 and hasnt even peaked yet. You heard it here first.
1500 - Raza Ahmed --> this kid is unbelievable his warm ups are amazing! and he does workouts with his fingers so he can click the mouse faster as u all know from facebook...you heard it here first
3000 - Brett Hacker --> this guy breathes harder than anyone else i know. its incredible! his vo2 max must be through the roof. just wait til ofsaa u heard it here first!
Steeple - David Langford --> this guy is ridiculous, his cross country this year was amazing..he is definately going for gold! you heard it here first
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