OFSAA XC 2009 - Yes already

[limestonemiler]

you're forgetting it's very tough to excel as a gr. 11. even jp finished 16 in his first-year senior.

no offense to denault or king, but they've got to be thinking top 10 and even that's going to be tough. last time more than two 11's finished top 10 at an ofsaa was niagara falls and that race was pretty gongshow to begin with. (anyone else remember the sand they used for the start? like, what the hell?)

odds are against them, i'd be calling king somewhere 5 - 10 and denault'll finish just outt imo.

[tbrown]

woodfine for the win

[eight-hundred]

woodfine ran 14:45 5k thats huge, hes got to be considered the favourite. the last time a grade 11 won was in 2007 and he only had a pb of 14:56? or so thats 11 seconds slower than woodfine and there was better competition that year.

[evane]

Aug 27, 2009 17:36:22 GMT -5 eight-hundred said:

woodfine ran 14:45 5k thats huge, hes got to be considered the favourite. the last time a grade 11 won was in 2007 and he only had a pb of 14:56? or so thats 11 seconds slower than woodfine and there was better competition that year.

Im pretty sure Mo ran 14:36 as a grade 11. But still, 14:45 as a grade 11 is quite impressive.

[runner869]

Did Mo ran 14:36 during the summer before grade eleven where tristan ran his 14:45, or around OFSAA during grade eleven. There is a pretty big difference.

[limestonemiler]

if you look back at my first post, i did in fact call woodfine ftw. i forgot to add to my last post that, every once in a while, a standout graces his class. none of the 12s or even the lappers has the sheer talent to match this kid.

[limestonemiler]

Aug 27, 2009 18:00:10 GMT -5 runner869 said:

Did Mo ran 14:36 during the summer before grade eleven where tristan ran his 14:45, or around OFSAA during grade eleven. There is a pretty big difference.

mo had much tougher comp then than tristan will have this year.

[LANNY !!!!!!1]

mo only ran ~14:58 the summer after grade 10 so tristan is theoretically faster than mo at the same age. tristan def has to be the favourite this year.

[eight-hundred]

Aug 27, 2009 19:01:11 GMT -5 LANNY !!!!!!1 said:

mo only ran ~14:58 the summer after grade 10 so tristan is theoretically faster than mo at the same age. tristan def has to be the favourite this year.

I just checked it Mo did run a 14:56, but it was at a national championship, where he won. the second place finisher was britt and he was quite a bit back. Tristan had a someone to make the pace for him when he ran his 14:45 and it was a twilight. so looking at objectively i would ahve to disaagre with you.

[lukesteer93]

tristans run that day at the twilight meet wasn't even exceptional for him. He was actually looking to go closer to 14 30, 14 35 but was off a bit. i don't know what a 15:12 5 km run leg at tri nationals would translate to in a regular race, but youd have to think it would be pretty fast.

limestonemiler, that's a sick personal message thing

[tbrown]

early senior boys prediction

1. Tristan Woodfine
2. Steve Hosier
3. andrew degroot
4.daryl smith
5.paul janikowski

[lukesteer93]

no eric dillon?

[lukesteer93]

or esselink? especially esselink. he beat janikowski at ofsaa 3000 and was just a second off daryl

[lukesteer93]

pesce and kowalsky will also be there, and they too beat janikowski at ofsaa t&f. sorry for this extended train of thought

[tbrown]

xc is not 3k its 7k, janikowski will be higher up as the distance gets longer

[syphon]

Aug 26, 2009 19:51:24 GMT -5 dr1500 said:

Junior boy predictions are the most accurate...as for senior boys it is a toss up between the usual suspects, no one has the win locked in

Toss up between the usual suspects? 2 of them graduated...

[limestonemiler]

Aug 26, 2009 19:51:24 GMT -5 dr1500 said:

Junior boy predictions are the most accurate...as for senior boys it is a toss up between the usual suspects, no one has the win locked in

disagree entirely.

the transition from midget --> junior is so iffy; it's impossible to tell who's been training, growing, etc. esp. before any races.

and i just do not see woodfine losing. he's faster than mo was as a first-year sen. and his comp is significantly weaker to boot (hughes, kuternin, jackson, ... >> smith, jani). for me, he's a lock.

[limestonemiler]

Aug 27, 2009 19:17:04 GMT -5 lukesteer93 said:

limestonemiler, that's a sick personal message thing

thanks man.

[lukesteer93]

kichuck has to be the favourite for jb after an 8:43 at canadian legion t&f championships

[limestonemiler]

obvi, but you can tell he's just so overdeveloped. watch the others slowly come back to him, if not pass him, in the near future.

[oldbones]

Although Woodfine's tri background is a benefit to his overall fitness I believe his year round activity will play a part in either injury or fatigue/overtraining/burnout.

Remember this kid is also excellent at XC skiing! Plus he ran indoors this year coupled with Canada Games.

I wonder what week his coach has planned for rest and rehab?

[trackie123]

teams??

[Mr.800]

mb- jeremy coughler and philip messina will battle it out, adam doxator in top 10

jb- eamon for the win with shawn, sloan, and gavin all battling for the medal, and corey bellemore and abdi jama will be up there also (top 10 for sure)

sb-

1. tristan
2. paul
3. jacob smith
4. even esselik
5. daryl
6. xavier king
7. rob denault

[mr3d]

Aug 28, 2009 12:32:41 GMT -5 Mr.800 said:

mb- jeremy coughler and philip messina will battle it out, adam doxator in top 10

jb- eamon for the win with shawn, sloan, and gavin all battling for the medal, and corey bellemore and abdi jama will be up there also (top 10 for sure)

sb-

1. tristan
2. paul
3. jacob smith
4. even esselik
5. daryl
6. xavier king
7. rob denault

Lmao.. ur not serious are you? thats probably the worst list of sb preds ive ever seen. jacob would have to be returning into his 6th year of highschool for this to happen and your missing half of the best runners in the sb field

[wrestlerun]

This 'growing up' or catching up theme is interesting....quite frequently it seems that the OFSAA XC midget champions seem to fall off by their senior years....probably most of this is that they were very developed grade 9's and their peers had caught up to them by grade 11/12 (or earlier). A couple of examples that come to mind are Ian Donald and Lianne Gaston-Ouellette (sp.?) who won OFSAA grade 9 XC. Lianne was a beast compared to the other girls in the field. Both are still good runners, but are were not ofsaa medal contenders in their senior years. Tristan looked more like a grade 10 when he was in grade 9, but still looks a bit like a man among boys in some of his competitions....however, this year he has everyone from the 3 years of senior eligibility to compete against. That being said, I think he wins.

Anyone know how many runners have 'run the table' and won OFSAA XC championships each year of h.s.? (or perhaps someone with last years OFSAA XC program?)

[rez]

the midget girls xc race should be pretty crazy between jamie phelan and natalia hawthorn

[jcspeed]

Aug 28, 2009 14:06:08 GMT -5 wrestlerun said:

This 'growing up' or catching up theme is interesting....quite frequently it seems that the OFSAA XC midget champions seem to fall off by their senior years....probably most of this is that they were very developed grade 9's and their peers had caught up to them by grade 11/12 (or earlier). A couple of examples that come to mind are Ian Donald and Lianne Gaston-Ouellette (sp.?) who won OFSAA grade 9 XC. Lianne was a beast compared to the other girls in the field. Both are still good runners, but are were not ofsaa medal contenders in their senior years. Tristan looked more like a grade 10 when he was in grade 9, but still looks a bit like a man among boys in some of his competitions....however, this year he has everyone from the 3 years of senior eligibility to compete against. That being said, I think he wins.

Anyone know how many runners have 'run the table' and won OFSAA XC championships each year of h.s.? (or perhaps someone with last years OFSAA XC program?)

Liane Ouellet Gaston: OFSAA champ to Kawartha chump. To say Liane is still a good runner is probably being polite. She was kind of able to hang on to some okay results in grade 10. But as a grade 11 she placed like 30th at Kawartha Cross Country (the qualifier for COSSA).

and I think Kevin Sullivan won all 5 years OFSAA XC, not 100% on this, maybe someone can back me up ?

[tbrown]

yes sullivan did win xc throughout all 5 years, pretty amazing as no one can ever top this unless you can stay back in highschool for 2 extra years lol

[oldbones]

Kevin did win all OFSAA years but he was beaten at Canadian XC champs (Junior) one year in a mudfest in Halifax if memory serves.

(Nothing to do with this tread however but he did get beaten now and again).

[lukesteer93]

Aug 28, 2009 9:44:57 GMT -5 oldbones said:

Although Woodfine's tri background is a benefit to his overall fitness I believe his year round activity will play a part in either injury or fatigue/overtraining/burnout.

Remember this kid is also excellent at XC skiing! Plus he ran indoors this year coupled with Canada Games.

I wonder what week his coach has planned for rest and rehab?

he does train quite a bt, but he takes it a bit easier in the winter than you'd think. His xc skiing talent is mostly a byproduct of his impressive cardiovascular abilities, as he only skis once or twice a week at PAXC during the winter. And offsets the whole race... silly dude. But i digress. He's still doing tri stuff primarily during the winter, and that is at a lower volume as well.