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Post by gaelic on Oct 25, 2009 10:04:20 GMT -5
It will be very interesting to see how this plays out. While I agree with loverunning on the fact that the strength of their top two will give them an advantage (both will likely place top ten or fifteen, so there wont be many additional runners to push them back by a significant amount of points), all of Cameron's runners placed in the top 50 at pre-ofsaa, whereas Pickering's fourth runner finished 81st. With the large amount of additional runners that will be at ofsaa, a larger amount of them can be expected to finish between 50 and 80 than between 10 and 50, which means that pickering's fourth will be pushed back much more than cameron's fourth. Like I said, it will be very interesting to see how it works out; in the meantime, we can only speculate.
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Post by cfmalone on Oct 25, 2009 12:14:44 GMT -5
I think actually, it will be the opposite. I think at Pre-OFSAA there are many good runners who are better then Pickerings 4th runner but who will not make it to OFSAA because they are mostly from the Toronto area which is normally a very hard region to qualify out of. Therefore i think their 4th runner will actually do better at OFSAA, maybe top 50 or 40, and will be much closer to Cameron Heights 4th runner.
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Post by loverunning on Oct 25, 2009 12:21:41 GMT -5
Ya thats what I was thinking too and also, if you compare even the first three runners, Pickering will definitely be ahead after their first two who will score much lower than Cameron Heights first two, then even if their third is a little behind Cameron's third, they will still have a big enough lead to stay ahead with their fourth runner. It's going to be an awesome battle for most likely silver and bronze between these two schools.
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Post by waterlooxc on Oct 25, 2009 12:24:41 GMT -5
all good points. it will be a tight race for 2nd and 3rd teams.
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Post by borisp on Oct 25, 2009 13:44:10 GMT -5
Didn't Cameron's first runner Jon Martin also fall at pre-ofsaa? I heard he did but I wasn't there.
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Post by thefuture on Oct 25, 2009 13:57:18 GMT -5
first second and thrid for junior boys are all up for grabs between redmond sarnia winston churchill st marys
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Post by 1972islife on Oct 25, 2009 17:00:18 GMT -5
I took my daughter to Boyd today to go over the course and if there is a lot of rain the week before OFSAA the results could get messed up due to that downhill. It was really slippery today after all the rain last night and it will be very easy for someone to wipe out if they are running fast. By the time a few races have gone it will be muck. Hopefully they will leave the leaf cover on the trail since it helps a lot with the footing. When I raced OFSAA at Boyd in 1981 that downhill was really sloppy and I put 18mm spikes in. I got those "nails" from some 60s era vintage cinder track javelin boots and I doubt you can get that size anymore. i was at pre ofsaa and that down hill was brutal. you either loose all of your speed and dont fall or keep your pace and wipe out. it will be hard for the lead pack to decide what to do there |
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Post by mralexmoher on Oct 25, 2009 17:20:52 GMT -5
first second and thrid for junior boys are all up for grabs between redmond sarnia winston churchill st marys ok i'm on the st marys junior team, and i just find that really hard to believe (as much as i loved reading it) i looked at this year's pre ofsaa, and last years ofsaa, and i noticed that sir winston churchhill was the only team from last years ofsaa top five that attended this years pre ofsaa, if i'm not mistaken. also, (no offense to sir winston) last year, they had two runners in the top 20, and this year, one of those guys lost his running legs apparently, from focusing on cycling in the summer, so he lost some potential for the team. I know they won pre ofsaa, and we beat them this year, but there are so many teams that have kept under the radar from what i know. Even though we do have a talented midget moving up (kid's a stud) i dont think it's possible to make somewhat accurate predictions until all of the regional champs are over |
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Post by oldrunner on Oct 25, 2009 18:11:35 GMT -5
Didn't Cameron's first runner Jon Martin also fall at pre-ofsaa? I heard he did but I wasn't there. Yes, he fell going down the hill. Don't know if that would have impacted his position, but he recovered quickly enough. |
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Post by bekelesprinttstar on Oct 25, 2009 19:59:55 GMT -5
You'd Be An Idiot Not Too Put Cardinal Leger From Brampton in the Top 10 or atleast Outside Looking In,There Pretty Legit
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Post by distancemedley on Oct 25, 2009 21:15:40 GMT -5
Senior Boys Top 10 Teams 1. Vincent Massey (they got it locked up) 2. Pickering 3. Cameron Heights 4. R.S. McLaughlin 5. Sarnia Northern 6. Thousand Islands 7. Highland 8. ESC Theriault 9. St. Anne's 10. Saugeen District Outside lookin in: Sydenham, Courtice, Centre Wellington Unfortunately Pickering, McLaughlin, and Courtice cannot all qualify for OFSAA as they all compete in the same region. thats awful for courtice |
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Post by showtime09 on Oct 26, 2009 11:52:46 GMT -5
Ladies and Gentleman with all this talk about teams, I'm going to say it again, if Sydenham's healthy they are proabably going to medal at OFSAA, at least top 5.
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Post by distancemedley on Oct 26, 2009 11:57:23 GMT -5
Does anyone know where Merid Seleshi has been? havn't heard much about him this season.. & also my preds are : 1.Degroot 2.Smith 3.Janikowski 4.Woodfine 5.Hosier Senior Boys 7100 Meter ======================================================================= Name School Finals Points ======================================================================= 1 Seleshi, Merid Birchmount Park C I 26:31.69 1 2 Bates, Dylan Birchmount Park C I 27:29.03 2 3 Peruzzi, Matteo Sir Oliver Mowat 27:36.38 3 4 Provost, Mark Birchmount Park C I 27:56.95 4 5 Huang, Gavin * SATEC 28:38.78 5 6 Yousuf, Galan * R.H. King Academy 29:05.55 6 |
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Post by gaelic on Oct 26, 2009 15:24:50 GMT -5
Ladies and Gentleman with all this talk about teams, I'm going to say it again, if Sydenham's healthy they are proabably going to medal at OFSAA, at least top 5. Did Sydenham have all of their top four runners at pre-ofsaa? Because if they did I really don't think they will medal, if I recall correctly their fourth placed 300 - something. |
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Post by loverunning on Oct 26, 2009 15:54:23 GMT -5
Ya at pre ofsaa they came 13th scoring 9, 15, 17 and 341, so unless that wasnt there 4th runner, or they were running injured then i wouldnt give them much of a chance at a top 5 at ofsaa.
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Post by gaelic on Oct 26, 2009 16:00:35 GMT -5
I've looked around to find some results for them, and every one that I've seen, their 4th was significantly slower compared to the rest of their team...so unless they pull another runner out of nowhere I highly doubt they will even crack top ten...which is too bad since their first three runners are quite talented.
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Post by F.T on Oct 26, 2009 17:09:13 GMT -5
Ladies and Gentleman with all this talk about teams, I'm going to say it again, if Sydenham's healthy they are proabably going to medal at OFSAA, at least top 5. Did Sydenham have all of their top four runners at pre-ofsaa? Because if they did I really don't think they will medal, if I recall correctly their fourth placed 300 - something. Sydenham is obviously going to get one of thier top 3 to run the course twice, come on guys, get with it  |
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Post by JD on Oct 26, 2009 17:39:57 GMT -5
If what ive heard is true, sydenham's 4th and 5th runners at pre-ofsaa left the starting line somewhere in the range of 2 minutes after the gun went off. The 4th also ran with the 5th, who is quite a bit slower. Their top 3 runners who did race, all placed in the top 17 at pre-ofsaa. While thier 4th may be significantly farther back from their top 3, sydenham should not be counted out. Although they have had few races where all have run, their 4th placed 23rd at tiss invitational.
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Post by cda on Oct 26, 2009 18:03:05 GMT -5
If what ive heard is true, sydenham's 4th and 5th runners at pre-ofsaa left the starting line somewhere in the range of 2 minutes after the gun went off. The 4th also ran with the 5th, who is quite a bit slower. Their top 3 runners who did race, all placed in the top 17 at pre-ofsaa. While thier 4th may be significantly farther back from their top 3, sydenham should not be counted out. Although they have had few races where all have run, their 4th placed 23rd at tiss invitational. How can anyone have such inside knowledge of the Golden Queergles' game plan? |
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Post by distancemedley on Oct 26, 2009 19:07:33 GMT -5
Sydenham at TISS Invitational - 3rd as team score of 79
2 Jeffrey Archer Sydenham H S 23:11.42
3 Dylan O'Sullivan Sydenham H S 23:40.89
23 Eliot Leyenhorst Sydenham H S 25:56.25
51 Chris Hull Sydenham H S 27:26.38
Sydenham at Pre-Ofsaa - 13th as team score of 382
Jeffrey Archer Sydenham 9
Robert Asselstine Sydenham - 15
Dylan O'Sullivan Sydenham 17
Chris Hull Sydenham 341
Eliot Leyenhorst Sydenham 342
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Post by Gangster Pre on Oct 26, 2009 19:20:52 GMT -5
what was your point in posting this? , as you can see, in the tiss meet one of their top three is missing. As for pre-ofssaa look at the times , i dont think 30min is what their 4th and 5th run on a normal day.
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Post by JD on Oct 26, 2009 20:02:40 GMT -5
seconded. these 2 sets of results do however show the performance of all 5 of their runners, just in different instances. An athlete who runs 23rd at tiss or a 25:56 could do significantly better than 342nd at pre-ofsaa if they were truly racing
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Post by distancemedley on Oct 26, 2009 21:20:12 GMT -5
seconded. these 2 sets of results do however show the performance of all 5 of their runners, just in different instances. An athlete who runs 23rd at tiss or a 25:56 could do significantly better than 342nd at pre-ofsaa if they were truly racing exactly my point in posting this, everyone is saying sydenham's 4th is superiorly weak, he's not that weak at all, 23rd at the tiss meet was pretty good, they're not a weak team at all like everyone seems to think. |
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Post by thefuture on Oct 27, 2009 18:47:21 GMT -5
REDMOND FTW!!
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Post by 1972islife on Oct 27, 2009 19:04:29 GMT -5
Unfortunately Pickering, McLaughlin, and Courtice cannot all qualify for OFSAA as they all compete in the same region. thats awful for courtice you shouldn't count out courtice, they have esslink and cunliffe and they have good third and fourth runners in mossing a moore not to mention they won at mustangs |
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Post by loverunning on Oct 27, 2009 19:08:45 GMT -5
you shouldn't count out courtice, they have esslink and cunliffe and they have good third and fourth runners in mossing a moore not to mention they won at mustangs No doubt Courtice would do well at Ofsaa, could even be in the top 10 if they made it, but Pickering and RS McLaughlin are way stronger as a whole team. Pickering will very likely medal and McLaughlin will probably come top 5. |
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Post by dr1500 on Oct 27, 2009 19:09:30 GMT -5
you shouldn't count out courtice, they have esslink and cunliffe and they have good third and fourth runners in mossing a moore not to mention they won at mustangs Courtice is a solid team no doubt. However they cannot match up against pickering and r.s. Pickering we already know were 2nd at pre-ofsaa and then theres r.s who has dillon and darlington as well as holt and reay. Both teams have stronger rosters than Courtice. |
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Post by gaelic on Oct 27, 2009 19:26:44 GMT -5
you shouldn't count out courtice, they have esslink and cunliffe and they have good third and fourth runners in mossing a moore not to mention they won at mustangs Courtice is a solid team no doubt. However they cannot match up against pickering and r.s. Pickering we already know were 2nd at pre-ofsaa and then theres r.s who has dillon and darlington as well as holt and reay. Both teams have stronger rosters than Courtice. pickering was actually 3rd at pre-ofsaa. |
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Post by goingthedistance on Oct 27, 2009 19:41:22 GMT -5
you shouldn't count out courtice, they have esslink and cunliffe and they have good third and fourth runners in mossing a moore not to mention they won at mustangs Courtice is a solid team no doubt. However they cannot match up against pickering and r.s. Pickering we already know were 2nd at pre-ofsaa and then theres r.s who has dillon and darlington as well as holt and reay. Both teams have stronger rosters than Courtice. Has anyone else noticed dillon hasn't raced all year? |
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Post by JJOSEPH on Oct 27, 2009 20:12:28 GMT -5
Hers my predictions:
1. Tristan Woodfine (takes over around the 4-5k)
2. Degroot (gives a good battle up front but falls short)
3. Steven Hosier (pulls away from pack grabs a bronze)
4. Daryl Smith ( tight finish and comes 4th)
5. Janikowski ( hangs on and finishes 5th)
6. Kowalsky (solid race)
7. Xavier King ( not far from kowalsky)
8. De Vries ( solid outing for him)
9. Jay Boychuk ( tough kid..tankk)
10. Eric Dillon ( rounds up the top 10)
As for the teams i think
1. Massey (same team as last year: dominating win again)
2. R.S. McLaughlin ( good program and a deep/talented group of runners)
3. Pickering ( with 2 runners in the top 10.. and solid 3 and 4 runners should do it)
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