Scholarships

[bornrunner]

I was wondering what kind of times a distance runner would need to get a full ride to an american division 1 school. I am looking for times anywhere between 1500m to 10k times for men. Thanks in advance.

[HHH]

Doesn't answer your question, but I have some scholarship money if anyone wants to come and race for me at Concordia University College of Alberta. We compete in the Alberta College Athletic Conference and if you're good enough, you can make nationals. We also did an indoor season this year and will continue to grow the program over the next few years.

I have more money if you're an Albertan but I do have some for out of province runners if you would like to come. I personally found the Alberta colleges a nice step between high school and university competition. We are a very new program so standards are not high, if you're interested fire me an e-mail: [e-mail]. You can check out the school's website here: www.concordia.ab.ca/ It's a great little school.

Matt

[journeyman]

Haha, ok, not to confuse you but since Matt posted about his school (which has the same name as mine!), I will as well.

Concordia UNIVERSITY, in Montreal, has $2000 for a cross-country runner each year. This is not an entry-scholarship, you have to be here for a year to get it. We compete in the CIS for cross country, but not currently for indoor track (though we do compete in most QSSF indoor track meets).

The criteria are as follows:

The student athlete must
1) have completed 18 credit hours prior to the year of the award.
2) have a GPA of at least 2.0 (minimum school requirement), but high
academic achievement is an important part of this award (likely mid-3 GPA).
3) make a significant contribution to the community of the Concordia
cross country team.
4) perform at a high level when representing Concordia in cross country.

About the award:
5) the award will alternate between male and female student athletes. (2010-11 will go to a female)
6) the award is for $2000 and is for one year.

The idea is that it will go to the best runner, with the provisos as above (a good GPA and be a positive part of the team).

www.stingers.ca will give you a start on the athletics dept and the school.

[bornrunner]

Ok thanks. I am still in grade 11 and looking around but I will keep both schools in mind.

[Angus Macaulay]

Cool to see that a lot of Canadian institutions are stepping up w/ cash for athletes. There are usually some conditions involved like grade average, scholarship caps dependant on tuition, and availability of funds, but those depend on the institution.

I think guys running 154 800s and 355 or faster were landing pretty good scholarships south of the boarder the year i graduated. I think sub 830 did it too though I was pretty out of touch with the 3k in high school. Of course faster times = more interest.

That said i know some guys took partial rides to schools with times a touch slower and were really happy there. You have to be more careful with the partial rides. Some school's tuition with that help still puts you in at 5-10 grand a year.

Some guys ran faster and hated it at the D1 schools they ended up at, though i know lots of guys (and girls) who had really good experiences.

The coaching staff i worked with in high school (speed river) always preached best fit. That said, you've gotta put yourself out there. Write your SATs, email coaches, and in general keep your doors open.

Good luck

[bornrunner]

Thanks. I have been studying for SATs and been using some recruiting programs online.

[fastrunner155]

This site seems to be a good resource: www.berecruited.com/

Not sure how many Canadians use it though.

[whatsyourmiletime]

is there solid times that are set that a school will give you a full ride if you hit or is it a combination of factors that some guy reviews and chooses

[whatsyourmiletime]

feel free to list the times for sprints too

[run123]

I would definitely recommend berecruited

[fishoil]

how fast for a full ride to UBC? serious

[kristjanh]

There is no standard set in stone for how fast you have to run to get a full ride. Obviously people from each institution will be able to give you a more accurate answer than I can, but each school has a set amount of scholarships, so what they value one year may not be as important the next. Also, it depends when you run the times. If you run your fastest times in spring of your grade 12 year, then some of the big schools may be out of scholarship money. There is also a huge difference between going to a bigger school and a smaller school (even though both are D1). Generally speaking, the faster the team, the faster you have to run to be worth a full ride.

To give you an example, I ran a 4:14 mile and an 8:36 3k indoors in my grade 11 year. I ran the mile in New York at the National Scholastic meet. I also had a 3:57 1500 under my belt. Lots of schools from conferences like the Big 10, Big 12, Pac 10, Big East, and even some smaller schools were in contact.

That summer, I got a stress fracture and most of the schools lost interest. I stopped being contacted by people until I went out and contacted schools again. No one was really interested until I ran fast again, so when I ran 4:14 and 3:57 again indoors in grade 12, people started talking to me. By this point, many of the schools that I had talked to previously had used up their scholarship funds.

The majority of schools were offering me around 90% scholarship. I had one full ride offer from a smaller school (Big Sky Conference) but since they could not send me on a recruiting visit, I decided against it. In the end, I went to Iowa State on a 90%, and still paid more than I would have to stay at home. (The Canadian Dollar was awful at the time as well, though) I hope this helps a little.

[eight-hundred]

I found these interviews very helpful if you are pursuing a scholarship in the states.

www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view/236179-recruiting-with-collegiate-coaches

some American schools have put out scholarship standards.
If you want a full ride at the bigger D1 schools here are some stanrdards I found:

800m- 1:49.95
1600m- 4:05
3200m- 8:53

Im citing FSUs standards but i imagine many of the other bigger universities have similar standards.

grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/fsu/sports/c-xc/auto_pdf/0809scholarshipstandards.pdf

hope that helps.

[bornrunner]

thanks. this is a lot of help.

[jaycity]

is anyone else having problems registering with berecruited?
im not getting a verification email

[F.T]

Mar 21, 2010 23:44:33 GMT -5 fishoil said:

how fast for a full ride to UBC? serious

I was also wondering what times they were looking for scholarsips. Any ideas?

[andrin]

Mar 21, 2010 23:44:33 GMT -5 fishoil said:

how fast for a full ride to UBC? serious

Ask Nick Thomas. That guy knows all the stats.