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Post by eight-hundred on Mar 8, 2010 22:44:03 GMT -5
they just posted the mens and womens fields. Several Canadians competing and couple with realistic medal chance. The Canadians i could spot are: - Sheila Reid 3000m - Jessica O'Connell 3000m - Brianne Theisen Heptathlon - Cameron Levins Mile - Matthew Leeder 3000m - Justin Marpole-Bird 3000m - Derek Drouin High Jump Both Sheila, Derek and Brianne Theisen are ranked second in their event. Mens Field: web1.ncaa.org/track/eventFiles/d1minddecl.txtWomens Field: web1.ncaa.org/track/eventFiles/d1winddecl.txt |
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Post by henry25 on Mar 8, 2010 23:05:42 GMT -5
theres also Alex Becker in the 3000m and 5000m and Marie Louise Asselin in the 5000m
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Post by bystander on Mar 10, 2010 13:59:52 GMT -5
Caitlin Bailey (B.College) and Ariane Raby (Indi) in the DMR as well.
Is Sean Cleary (West Virginia coach from Georgetown, Ont.) doing a good job or what - 5 girls qualify individually, plus the DMR.
Bland and Christopher in the Mile, O'Connell in the 3000m, and Asselin and Grandt in the 5000m.
Wow, what a difference in qualifying peformances from CIS to NCAA - 9.57 to 9.18 for 3000m and 4.35 =4.57 Mile to 4.40 - I didn't think the gap was that big, although the depth should be (understandably) better in the NCAA.
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Post by oldbones on Mar 10, 2010 21:33:05 GMT -5
Caitlin Bailey (B.College) and Ariane Raby (Indi) in the DMR as well. Is Sean Cleary (West Virginia coach from Georgetown, Ont.) doing a good job or what - 5 girls qualify individually, plus the DMR. Bland and Christopher in the Mile, O'Connell in the 3000m, and Asselin and Grandt in the 5000m. Wow, what a difference in qualifying peformances from CIS to NCAA - 9.57 to 9.18 for 3000m and 4.35 =4.57 Mile to 4.40 - I didn't think the gap was that big, although the depth should be (understandably) better in the NCAA. Compare CIS 1500m/5000m men with NCAA DIV I or even Adams State in DIV II and you see the reality of quality and depth. |
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Post by ronb on Mar 10, 2010 21:58:05 GMT -5
Caitlin Bailey (B.College) and Ariane Raby (Indi) in the DMR as well. Is Sean Cleary (West Virginia coach from Georgetown, Ont.) doing a good job or what - 5 girls qualify individually, plus the DMR. Bland and Christopher in the Mile, O'Connell in the 3000m, and Asselin and Grandt in the 5000m. Wow, what a difference in qualifying peformances from CIS to NCAA - 9.57 to 9.18 for 3000m and 4.35 =4.57 Mile to 4.40 - I didn't think the gap was that big, although the depth should be (understandably) better in the NCAA. |
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Post by ronb on Mar 10, 2010 22:03:20 GMT -5
Hey bystander... CIS/NCAA discussions - I love it  Yes Sean is doing a great job at West Virginia. I wish a Canadian school had been able to hire him, so DST and the Gryphons would have a bit more competition. I am unfamiliar with the NCAA qualifying process for Indoor, so please enlighten me. a) The 9:18 / 3000 metre time - is that required to be from the current indoor season, or? b) Is that a requirement for all competitors in that event, or a "backup" high quality standard for those who haven't qualified in some other manner. Thanks. R. |
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Post by livefree on Mar 10, 2010 22:20:40 GMT -5
Kirani James......thats all i can say.
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Post by Catts on Mar 11, 2010 7:29:47 GMT -5
Hey Ron, Here are the basics: the NCAA has two qualifying standards; automatic and provisional. Athletes who hit the automatic standard qualify for the NCAA meet, regardless of how many meet standard. If there are not enough athletes that meet the automatic standard to fill out the field, it will be filled out with the top provisional athletes. So, 9:18 was the last qualifier in the womens 3000m. Hey bystander... CIS/NCAA discussions - I love it Yes Sean is doing a great job at West Virginia. I wish a Canadian school had been able to hire him, so DST and the Gryphons would have a bit more competition. I am unfamiliar with the NCAA qualifying process for Indoor, so please enlighten me. a) The 9:18 / 3000 metre time - is that required to be from the current indoor season, or? b) Is that a requirement for all competitors in that event, or a "backup" high quality standard for those who haven't qualified in some other manner. Thanks. R. |
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Post by ronb on Mar 11, 2010 9:35:32 GMT -5
Thanks Catts - yes, 9:18 is a very solid standard for a last qualifier. USA distance running has certainly been resurging over the past several years. Those young women must be getting their protein, B vitamins, and heme-iron from a good source |
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Post by powerboy on Mar 11, 2010 14:16:46 GMT -5
Ron;
I have it on good authority that Canadian girls are eating too much MacDonalds fare. This would probably explain the disparity in Q times!
Seriously, I think our CIS times are quite solid and trending in the right direction.
I can forsee that in a couple of years it might take 4:30 and 9:40 to qualify.
Its hard to remember that all of CIS is really just the equivalent to a big conference-like Big East or SEC. Compared on that basis, we look a little more favourable, although we will never have the sprint depth.
As I remarked a few weeks ago, one of the sights that really caught my eye at Notre Dame was about 50 female polevaulters lined up for run throughs. Do we even have 50 female polevaulters in the country?
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Post by eight-hundred on Mar 11, 2010 18:37:15 GMT -5
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Post by ronb on Mar 11, 2010 19:24:32 GMT -5
Ron; I have it on good authority that Canadian girls are eating too much MacDonalds fare. This would probably explain the disparity in Q times! Seriously, I think our CIS times are quite solid and trending in the right direction. I can forsee that in a couple of years it might take 4:30 and 9:40 to qualify. Its hard to remember that all of CIS is really just the equivalent to a big conference-like Big East or SEC. Compared on that basis, we look a little more favourable, although we will never have the sprint depth. As I remarked a few weeks ago, one of the sights that really caught my eye at Notre Dame was about 50 female polevaulters lined up for run throughs. Do we even have 50 female polevaulters in the country? Nothing wrong with a young woman wanting a BigMac now and then, eh? |
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Post by ronb on Mar 11, 2010 19:32:23 GMT -5
And on a more serious basis, remember that Canada has about the same population as California, and there are very few non-Canadians competing in the distance events at CIS, and perhaps 30 - 40 % of the Canadian graduating high school class are lured to the South, and the NCAA includes a lot of citizens of other countries as well, not just the USA and Canada. So it is only logical that the NCAA will have more quality and depth, than the CIS.
Does this mean that the NCAA will be better than the CIS for optimal development for all 18-23 year old distance runners? Of course not !!! It's an individual decision, and unfortunately, just my opinion, that some coaches of high school and junior athletes in Canada think they have failed if they can't get their athletes to an NCAA school. Controversial perspective - yes, but that's okay - I have been around long enough to see both sides of the equation.
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Post by coppsindoor on Mar 11, 2010 22:32:29 GMT -5
Several people have suggested putting these various lists in one place since they tend to get a little disjointed in this setting. Back in the fall Bystander created a list of 170 or so XC Canadians enrolled in US colleges. (It was on page 3 the last time I looked) I have taken this list made it into a database type file and posted it on www.coppsindoor.org.It's entitled NCAeh? Click on the second line. There's a lot more to do - make it searchable etc. but I was in a hurry given that the Indoor Championships are 2morrow. I found a few jumpers/throwers en route - his was an XC list - but there will be some that have been missed. Feel free to contribute. |
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Post by coppsindoor on Mar 11, 2010 22:41:34 GMT -5
www.coppsindoor.orgI am not sure why there is an error msg when you try to acccess it from here. The easiest route is to google "copps" - "copps indoor" comes up in about 10th place. The first search result "OFSAA photos" is the right one.
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Post by oldbones on Mar 12, 2010 0:47:58 GMT -5
And on a more serious basis, remember that Canada has about the same population as California, and there are very few non-Canadians competing in the distance events at CIS, and perhaps 30 - 40 % of the Canadian graduating high school class are lured to the South, and the NCAA includes a lot of citizens of other countries as well, not just the USA and Canada. So it is only logical that the NCAA will have more quality and depth, than the CIS. Does this mean that the NCAA will be better than the CIS for optimal development for all 18-23 year old distance runners? Of course not !!! It's an individual decision, and unfortunately, just my opinion, that some coaches of high school and junior athletes in Canada think they have failed if they can't get their athletes to an NCAA school. Controversial perspective - yes, but that's okay - I have been around long enough to see both sides of the equation. "Been around long enough" ... to not even know the basics of NCAA auto and provisional qualifying. Must be the BigMacs clogging your brain |
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Post by ronb on Mar 12, 2010 10:08:32 GMT -5
Hey oldbones, When the "hard drive" starts to get loaded up, one needs to be selective about what information to retain. Besides, if you don't know something, friends on your local chat line will quickly inform you. I haven't have had a BicMac in years now - too much burger for me. Mly occasional treat is the Wendy's single burger, and I take a pass on the fries --- I should be able to start hiking faster any day now |
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