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Post by fastrunner155 on Dec 9, 2009 9:25:34 GMT -5
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Post by perkilator on Dec 9, 2009 11:05:08 GMT -5
Any possible input on the prospect from a fast runner such as yourself???
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ess92
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Post by ess92 on Dec 9, 2009 15:37:36 GMT -5
Now what could go wrong with this...
I bet we are going to hear a lot of "I guess I just didn't have it today" come track season
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Post by redandblack on Dec 9, 2009 17:47:13 GMT -5
I don't see how this changes things very much if at all. If Bolt, Powell or any other big name were interested in fixing race results, many avenues are already available to do so underground and/or online. Whats the logic in doing it through something as risky and traceable as an newly emerged above ground company who is likely going to be forced to keep some solid books and records?
Furthermore I'd think it would be more than a little difficult to fix a track event with 8+ competitors to the point where the risk would be worth reward.
Betting lines are designed to take in more than they give out and formulate the odds to maintain this in the event of an upset. Even if Usain Bolt did throw a race to the only logical prospects of Gay or Powell, the odds are never going to be over 5-1 or 10-1 on his max bet of 50,000, to make that 250,000 or 500,000 maybe worth his while.
The only way for a 10-1+ longshot, like say Doc Patton, to payout, would be to have almost all 8+ guys in a 9 second race on the inside. Not only would keeping the camps of 8 seperate guys quite on something like that obviously be next to impossible but the fraud in the race itself would look painfully obvious. That said you would be hard pressed to find 8 guys at a world class level willing to risk life time bans and the like for a possible crack at $500 000.
I might be missing something painfully obvious here myself but I just don't see anything of the sort coming from this.
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oldbones
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Post by oldbones on Dec 10, 2009 10:39:14 GMT -5
Excellent development ... now if online betting were given for diamond league events (the 800m would really be interesting to bet on ... the odds spread would be very even unlike the 100m I would guess).
And instead of having xc races on pseudo xc courses (i.e. converted horse racing tracks) now have xc races actually on horse race tracks with betting! haha !
Shit the running spectacle might even become semi-popular!
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Post by limestonemiler on Dec 10, 2009 11:45:26 GMT -5
Shit the running spectacle might even become semi-popular! I'm willing to put money on that. |
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Post by Steller on Dec 10, 2009 12:26:37 GMT -5
they have had gambling at the Zurich Weltklasse Golden league the last few years....although I have not put any money down (actually, if you have accredition as being with an athlete, or an athlete/agent/coach etc., they will not let you gamble).
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Post by krs1 on Dec 10, 2009 12:31:02 GMT -5
The also had gambling at the 2006 Commonwealth Games in Melbourne, open to anyone. they have had gambling at the Zurich Weltklasse Golden league the last few years....although I have not put any money down (actually, if you have accredition as being with an athlete, or an athlete/agent/coach etc., they will not let you gamble). |
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Post by ronb on Dec 10, 2009 22:53:14 GMT -5
Just my opinion --- how sad for our sport, if this becomes the reason why people pay attention to us - better to be semi-ignored, than a gambling enterprise. Old school thinking, I guess...
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oldbones
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Post by oldbones on Dec 11, 2009 9:58:13 GMT -5
all sports evolve ... for better or for worse ... the sport of tf and xc in my opinion is on life support; something has to change cause old school thinking is obviously not working. With that being said many sports including hockey in Canada are seening declining participation rates (cost prohibitive nature ... I dunno).
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Post by ronb on Dec 11, 2009 12:29:45 GMT -5
all sports evolve ... for better or for worse ... the sport of tf and xc in my opinion is on life support; something has to change cause old school thinking is obviously not working. With that being said many sports including hockey in Canada are seening declining participation rates (cost prohibitive nature ... I dunno). With respect, I don't think the Old School Thinking is the problem. Almost of the conditions that were in place back in the Good Old Days, are currently not in place, with rare exceptions. And as for our sport being on "life support", I guess it's a matter of definitions. There are areas of our sport that seem to be in fine shape - road running, Fall cross-country running, High school running in many areas, University running in both Canada and the USA. However, I do agree that we are struggling in converting the talent that we have in our Schools into faster runners in University, and then into elite, and emerging elite, and just damn good runners for a period of time after that. At this point, this thread seems to be converging into the other thread, and includes the whole topic around what we need to do to provide as much support as possible to runners from age 22 and older. More on that later... |
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AndrePaul
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Post by AndrePaul on Dec 13, 2009 17:22:23 GMT -5
back to the original post.... uuuummmm Not trying to sound overly critical here but betting on track and field already exsists . It is just now legal in Jamaica (ie; Jamaican sportsbook/casino), or from that article in sounds like it will a type of (proline 'Ontario' ; sportsaction 'BC') game. You could have bet on any race Usain Bolt ran on this offshores online gambling site. Also you could also have bet on any olympic event in 2008. Any one in 2010, and the majority of triathlon and track and field races every year. www.bwin.comJust sayin'  |
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