Guelph xc course

[2nd place finisher]

Does anyone know how the course in Guelph is... (flat/hilly , soft grass/hard ground , rolling / long hills...)

[ticked]

Hey Ryan, You are no longer in CIS!!!! MOVE ONE BUDDY! hehehe

[Steller]

The Guelph course (hosted OUA's for 2 years in a row a few years ago and OTFA's last year and CI's this year) is at the Guelph Lakes Golf and Country Club. It's a 'links' style course and therefore has lots of hills and is constantly rolling. It's a 5km loop featuring a pretty long climb around the 1km mark and a pretty long climb up the 13th fairway around the 3km mark, but really rolling hills throughout. It's pretty viewer friendly, except from the 3rd to the 4th kilometer. (similar to Western).

In some ways it's a similar set-up to Western's Thames Valley course that has hosted a ton of CI's and the Western Int. every year. Someone who has raced at both locations could probbably give a better comparison than me, but I think the Guelph course could possibly be a 'bit' tougher, or at least equivalent.

Here are the all-time top 20 times recorded at Guelph Lakes Course (including post-collegians that raced at OTFA's last year). Of course only 3 championship races have ever been run on this course (unlike the 30 year tradition at Western), so these rankings aren't that deep.

Cheers, Trent


Guelph Lakes Top-25 ALL-TIME Men's 10km Times
Rank Name Time Team Race Date
1 Reid Coolsaet 31:07.4 Speed River 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003
2 Danny Tshidind Kassap 31:18.2 UTTC 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003
Reid Coolsaet 31:28.9 Guelph 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
3 Jay Cantin 31:32.7 Speed River 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003
4 Taylor Murphy 31:33.4 Guelph 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
5 Joel Klooster 31:34.0 Speed River 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003
6 Matt McInnes 31:36.3 UTTC 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003
7 Ryan McKenzie 31:39.7 Windsor 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
8 Calvin Staples 31:43.1 Tri-City 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003
9 Stephen Drew 31:50.0 Ottawa Lions 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003
10 Andy Hahn 31:54.2 Windsor Legion 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003
11 Brandon Young 31:59.8 Windsor 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
12 Charley Murphy 32:05.0 Speed River 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003
13 Mark Vollmer 32:13.3 Guelph 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
14 Andrew Smith 32:15.4 TOC 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003
Charley Murphy 32:26.2 UWO 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
15 Andrew Catton 32:34.0 Speed River 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003
Ryan McKenzie 32:35.0 Windsor 2001 OUA XC Champs Oct. 27th, 2001
16 James Gosselin 32:41.3 Windsor 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
17 Steve Bendo 32:44.6 Guelph 2001 OUA XC Champs Oct. 27th, 2001
Reid Coolsaet 32:47.3 Guelph 2001 OUA XC Champs Oct. 27th, 2001
18 Kyle Desormeaux 32:50.1 Guelph 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
Taylor Murphy 32:51.9 Guelph 2001 OUA XC Champs Oct. 27th, 2001
James Gosselin 32:54.1 Windsor 2001 OUA XC Champs Oct. 27th, 2001
19 Selam Yohannes 32:54.2 UTTC 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003
20 Rory Sneyd 32:56.7 Etobicoke 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003


Guelph Lakes Top-25 ALL-TIME Women's 5km Times
Rank Name Time Team Race Date
1 Sarah Dillabaugh 17:32.7 Ottawa 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
2 Diane Nukuri 17:54.5 UTTC 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003
3 Tambra Dunn 18:00.8 Toronto 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
4 Tarah McKay 18:10.0 Tri-City 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003
5 Beth Wightman 18:11.8 Queen's 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
6 Michaela McClure 18:23.9 Guelph 2001 OUA XC Champs Oct. 27th, 2001
7 Stephanie Smith 18:24.1 York Region 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003
8 Shannon Gerrie 18:25.2 UWO 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
9 Katie Engel 18:26.3 Ottawa Lions 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003
10 Michelle Childs 18:27.3 SSD 2003 OTFA XC Champs Nov. 16th, 2003
Beth Wightman 18:30.9 Queen's 2001 OUA XC Champs Oct. 27th, 2001
11 Kristie Henry 18:36.0 Waterloo 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
12 Elizabeth Ben-Ishai 18:36.8 Toronto 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
13 Leslie Carson 18:38.3 Guelph 2001 OUA XC Champs Oct. 27th, 2001
14 Kirsten Addison 18:39.6 Ottawa 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
15 Kim Neumayer 18:40.9 Waterloo 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
16 Jackie Sandoz 18:42.1 Toronto 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
17 Ashley Korman 18:50.0 Queen's 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
18 Kristina Rody 18:51.4 Guelph 2001 OUA XC Champs Oct. 27th, 2001
19 Heather Sherwin 18:51.8 Queen's 2002 OUA XC Champs Oct. 26th, 2002
20 Sasha Gollish 18:55.5 Toronto 2001 OUA XC Champs Oct. 27th, 2001

[any chance]

any chance trent that they'd be changing that spot about halfway through the loop where it is like downhill single file (pretty much) and then button-hooking back uphill?

[Steller]

To be honest, I really doubt it. The way the course is laid out on that golf course, there really isn't any other way around it...unless we totally revamp the entire course and race.

That 180 turn is a bit of a technical spot, and has become a little more technical now that they have paved that cart path where you need to actually make that turn (for the first two OUA races that path was still gravel and therefore in spikes much easier to turn without slipping). And it's about 2.3 km into the race, so things are a bit spread out by then anyways, and it's seriously only about 2-3 steps around that turn- so it's not that bad, plus everyone in the race does. No doubt it breaks up your rhythm a bit though, as it goes straight into an uphill.

[any chance]

so the downhill 180 is partly paved now? guys will be sliding down that hill on spikes

[its cross country]

the downhill is not paved, only the actual turn, so like Trent said, its only about 4 steps. You do have to slow down a bit. Its only 10 feet X 2 during a whole 10km race.

[any chance]

thanks

just asking that's all

when trent first said it - the thought going through my mind was that the corner was tight to begin with and having a paved part with guys on spikes would be like trying to run around a corner with ice on it.

just getting an idea
haven't been to the guelph course in a while

[Steller]

I'm sure we'll see what that corner is going to be like on race day. I know that at last years OTFA meet, which was wet and muddy, that no one had any real issues with that corner.

If race day is wet and icy there, I'm sure we would put down some carpet on that corner.