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Post by journeyman on Nov 12, 2009 11:02:24 GMT -5
Unfortunately it looks like Colle is not going to start on Saturday.
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Post by eastcoaster on Nov 12, 2009 11:26:53 GMT -5
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Post by rocknroll on Nov 12, 2009 16:36:31 GMT -5
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Post by journeyman on Nov 12, 2009 22:26:48 GMT -5
“Graeme has done a fantastic job of helping the team build unity and cohesion as the year’s gone on,” McCannel said. “He’s really emphasized the importance of running as a team at the CIS meet, and this will help them run better individually as well.”
From the CanWest preview, re: Regina Cougars.
As a general question, does this actually make a difference? Every individual needs to run their best--you don't get points for a tight spread. So if one runner can break away, shouldn't he do it? Just curious to hear people's thoughts on strategy. A little late, I suppose, but it would be interesting to see comments before and after the race, depending on what happens. For example, from last year, was Guelph "pack running" or did they just have 5 guys who were all close to the same fitness, which fitness happened to be faster than everyone else?
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Post by kitest on Nov 13, 2009 12:27:10 GMT -5
this is going to be an exciting CI's (aren't they always) on both sides. Guelph is one of the 3 best CI teams ever. No debate.
now, in the spirit of shameless self-promotion, i am proposing that the 1998 Windsor Lancers (for which I was the #1 guy at CI's xc) was the worst CIS championship winning team ever. the race took place @ U Waterloo with Uvic placing 2nd and guelph (?) 3rd. UBC had 3 in the top 7 and was out of the medals. shortbread mcinnes was like 80th!
i love each guy to death and each had and have their own accolades and respect bestowed upon them through the years but in order of finish, i offer you, the worst CIS championship team:
1. kiteley (circus midget)
2. mack truck trenhaile
3. macaulay
4. jeff haller
5. andy hahn
6. jeramie carbonaro
7. jag rai
yes, this group of fun loving guys did pull off the victory over victory in what seems to have been an oddly weak year. none of the 7 had broke 31 mins for 10k or 15mins for 5k at the time. although andy went onto run 14.12 and drew went on to run 1.05 half, these were early days in their development (and hahn was injured too through this season). jeff haller, erstwhile speed river, guelph and HS coach extrodinaire was a counter for us...yeah, how did that even work?
mack truck trenhaile was 186 pounds at race day. and was an all-canadian. carbonaro would have run in jean shorts if the opportunity presented itself and jag (a fantastic all-round athlete) had one sub 34 minute race in his entire career! and we won it! it was a thrill, but man, in retrospect, it was the worst CI cross team i was ever on (in 5 years i had 1 gold, 2 silvers, 1 bronze and 1 4th place)
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Post by kitest on Nov 13, 2009 12:31:00 GMT -5
oh, and wanted to note that this year's slanders and speculations was spectacular. great job guys. make sure you archive those.
i didn't read every thread carefully, but did someone make the connection between St.FX and Cold FX? that's comedy gold there
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Post by Haller on Nov 13, 2009 20:40:34 GMT -5
this is going to be an exciting CI's (aren't they always) on both sides. Guelph is one of the 3 best CI teams ever. No debate. now, in the spirit of shameless self-promotion, i am proposing that the 1998 Windsor Lancers (for which I was the #1 guy at CI's xc) was the worst CIS championship winning team ever. the race took place @ U Waterloo with Uvic placing 2nd and guelph (?) 3rd. UBC had 3 in the top 7 and was out of the medals. shortbread mcinnes was like 80th! i love each guy to death and each had and have their own accolades and respect bestowed upon them through the years but in order of finish, i offer you, the worst CIS championship team: 1. kiteley (circus midget) 2. mack truck trenhaile 3. macaulay 4. jeff haller 5. andy hahn 6. jeramie carbonaro 7. jag rai yes, this group of fun loving guys did pull off the victory over victory in what seems to have been an oddly weak year. none of the 7 had broke 31 mins for 10k or 15mins for 5k at the time. although andy went onto run 14.12 and drew went on to run 1.05 half, these were early days in their development (and hahn was injured too through this season). jeff haller, erstwhile speed river, guelph and HS coach extrodinaire was a counter for us...yeah, how did that even work? mack truck trenhaile was 186 pounds at race day. and was an all-canadian. carbonaro would have run in jean shorts if the opportunity presented itself and jag (a fantastic all-round athlete) had one sub 34 minute race in his entire career! and we won it! it was a thrill, but man, in retrospect, it was the worst CI cross team i was ever on (in 5 years i had 1 gold, 2 silvers, 1 bronze and 1 4th place) Thanks Kites, and I was actually just starting to feel good about myself. You're right though, back then I thought we were such a great team but when you look back on the fact that we had graduated guys like Fonseca and Tremain in the previous few years it definately wasn't the best Lancer team of the '90s. The Vike teams before us and the Lancer and Gryphon teams of the '00s were definately superior. I think that team that won in '98 was in the right place at the right time. I don't see the CIS back at that level again for a long time. Getting rid of grade 12 in Ontario along with things like Quest for Gold funding have allowed the OUA teams to get much better than they were 10-15 years ago. Haller p.s. I would like to echo my buddy Kiteley's praise for the S and S this year. Well done fellas! |
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Post by ronb on Nov 13, 2009 21:47:09 GMT -5
Good luck to all --- many of us wish we could be there tomorrow, but we are there in spirit...
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Post by wrestlerun on Nov 14, 2009 13:51:06 GMT -5
Megan Brown wins, Carson 2nd
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Post by boycey on Nov 14, 2009 13:58:50 GMT -5
Guelph wins 57 U of T 2 144 Mac 3 147 Brown wins Carson 2 Mcclure 3 From Speed River Twitter: twitter.com/SpeedRiver |
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Post by ebenjamin on Nov 15, 2009 22:47:11 GMT -5
Great work with Slanders this year guys! Looks like your predictions were pretty accurate. I'd like to see some predictions for next year as a finale to your wonderful work (unless you're taking time off, like most of the runners in Canada). Thanks for all the work you put in!
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Post by journeyman on Nov 16, 2009 12:07:58 GMT -5
Women: 1. Guelph: Actual finish: 1 2. McMaster: Actual finish 3 3. Toronto: Actual finish 2 4. Calgary : Actual finish 6 5. X: Actual finish 8 (looks like they got stung by the flu) 6. Laval: Actual finish 9 7. Queen’s: Actual finish 10 8. UVic: Actual finish 4 9. Alberta: Actual finish 5 10. Windsor: Actual finish 11 Teams left off with a chance to upset: Dalhousie: Actual finish 13 ‘Toba: Actual finish 7 UWO: Actual finish 15 Men: 1. Guelph: Actual finish 1 2. Windsor: Actual finish 2 3. X: Actual finish 3 4. Regina: Actual finish 4 (with #5 in 119th place!) 5. UVic: Actual finish 11 6. Queen’s: Actual finish 7 7. Sherbrooke: Actual finish 10 8. Toronto: Actual finish 12 9. Calgary: Actual finish 5 10. Alberta: Actual finish 6 Teams left off with a chance to upset: Mac: Actual finish 9 UWO: Actual finish 8 Concordia: Actual finish 17 without #1 and #5, but Noel-Hodge was 27, so good call there. I put in the predictions and the actual finishes. Pretty powerful prognostication! |
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Post by macktruck on Nov 18, 2009 0:50:51 GMT -5
this is going to be an exciting CI's (aren't they always) on both sides. Guelph is one of the 3 best CI teams ever. No debate. now, in the spirit of shameless self-promotion, i am proposing that the 1998 Windsor Lancers (for which I was the #1 guy at CI's xc) was the worst CIS championship winning team ever. the race took place @ U Waterloo with Uvic placing 2nd and guelph (?) 3rd. UBC had 3 in the top 7 and was out of the medals. shortbread mcinnes was like 80th! i love each guy to death and each had and have their own accolades and respect bestowed upon them through the years but in order of finish, i offer you, the worst CIS championship team: 1. kiteley (circus midget) 2. mack truck trenhaile 3. macaulay 4. jeff haller 5. andy hahn 6. jeramie carbonaro 7. jag rai yes, this group of fun loving guys did pull off the victory over victory in what seems to have been an oddly weak year. none of the 7 had broke 31 mins for 10k or 15mins for 5k at the time. although andy went onto run 14.12 and drew went on to run 1.05 half, these were early days in their development (and hahn was injured too through this season). jeff haller, erstwhile speed river, guelph and HS coach extrodinaire was a counter for us...yeah, how did that even work? mack truck trenhaile was 186 pounds at race day. and was an all-canadian. carbonaro would have run in jean shorts if the opportunity presented itself and jag (a fantastic all-round athlete) had one sub 34 minute race in his entire career! and we won it! it was a thrill, but man, in retrospect, it was the worst CI cross team i was ever on (in 5 years i had 1 gold, 2 silvers, 1 bronze and 1 4th place) Thanks Kites, and I was actually just starting to feel good about myself. You're right though, back then I thought we were such a great team but when you look back on the fact that we had graduated guys like Fonseca and Tremain in the previous few years it definately wasn't the best Lancer team of the '90s. The Vike teams before us and the Lancer and Gryphon teams of the '00s were definately superior. I think that team that won in '98 was in the right place at the right time. I don't see the CIS back at that level again for a long time. Getting rid of grade 12 in Ontario along with things like Quest for Gold funding have allowed the OUA teams to get much better than they were 10-15 years ago. Haller p.s. I would like to echo my buddy Kiteley's praise for the S and S this year. Well done fellas! I completely disagree with this. I love you and your current Beastie Boys Sabotage moustache Kites, but you sound like a running snob. Everyone always talks about talent and splits and other shit time oriented factoids that no one cares about and everyone forgets the day you step off the track and retire; no one talks about heart and mental fortitude. If I had a dime for every clown I smoked in a big race that had faster PBs than me -- well, I'd have more money for gas in the 'ol Lotus Elise. The fact is that Macaulay was racing on a badly sprained ankle, Hahner's strained hamstring looked like baseball out the back of his leg after 10KM, and Haller raced out of his shorts at OU's and CI's -- I mean simply to a level that he never hit before or after (but when the team needed it the most, he stepped up). Were we the most talented? Certainly not. But were we the toughest team ever? Did we show more heart than has ever been shown on a CI XC course? Both are up for legitimate argument. I wear that championship ring every goddamned day of my life as a reminder of what success is in the face of adversity. GO LANCERS, Mack Truck. P.S. meeting with a nutritionist every Monday for 4 years and being banned from lifting weights with the sprinters allowed me to be a svelte 162 pounds at 1998 CI's. |
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Post by limestonemiler on Nov 19, 2009 14:06:33 GMT -5
Women: 1. Guelph: Actual finish: 1 2. McMaster: Actual finish 3 3. Toronto: Actual finish 2 4. Calgary : Actual finish 6 5. X: Actual finish 8 (looks like they got stung by the flu) 6. Laval: Actual finish 9 7. Queen’s: Actual finish 10 8. UVic: Actual finish 4 9. Alberta: Actual finish 5 10. Windsor: Actual finish 11 Teams left off with a chance to upset: Dalhousie: Actual finish 13 ‘Toba: Actual finish 7 UWO: Actual finish 15 Men: 1. Guelph: Actual finish 1 2. Windsor: Actual finish 2 3. X: Actual finish 3 4. Regina: Actual finish 4 (with #5 in 119th place!) 5. UVic: Actual finish 11 6. Queen’s: Actual finish 7 7. Sherbrooke: Actual finish 10 8. Toronto: Actual finish 12 9. Calgary: Actual finish 5 10. Alberta: Actual finish 6 Teams left off with a chance to upset: Mac: Actual finish 9 UWO: Actual finish 8 Concordia: Actual finish 17 without #1 and #5, but Noel-Hodge was 27, so good call there. I put in the predictions and the actual finishes. Pretty powerful prognostication! agreed. |
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