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Post by oldrunner on Oct 26, 2009 18:58:41 GMT -5
This conversation started on the Kingston Results thread, so I figured this topic was deserving its own mention so here goes.
In Waterloo Region, we are beginning to see the flu take hold of some runners who are doubtful for their Association Final on Thursday. It seems everyone is coming down with it, so OFSAA might be pretty thin this year if runners keep dropping out.
Since the news is loaded with stories on H1N1, I am interested in finding out whether Association Finals along with OFSAA will be impacted.
I will be the first to start. I know of at least 3 of the top 10 CWOSSA senior boy runners who likely will not be running their meet on Thursday due to the flu. That's 30% right there.
Anyone else?
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Post by coacha on Oct 26, 2009 19:06:44 GMT -5
We have our share of flu sickness as we barely ever had a full team at a meet, but we were lucky at our regional championships to have everyone race. We have a new type of flu though, it is called single A hockey and apparently a single A hockey tournament is good enough to keep our 1st runner (Midget boys team) from coming to OFSAA....add about 100 points to our score!
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Post by runfree on Oct 26, 2009 20:12:48 GMT -5
Our qualifier is tommorow and only about 10 people in my whole team doesnt have the flu. Ive had it for a week and same with 3 others of the top 5 seniors.
just weakness and high fever seems to always hit me at night....
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Post by JD on Oct 26, 2009 20:23:51 GMT -5
Personally ive fallin prey to the chest cough, headache, stuffy nose/ watery eyes, fever and general fatigue. With an ofsaa qualifier quickly arriving friday im left crossing my fingers and hoping for the best.
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Post by F.T on Oct 26, 2009 21:55:13 GMT -5
So in summary... eat your veggies, go to ofsaa
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Post by borisp on Oct 26, 2009 22:07:29 GMT -5
I will be the first to start. I know of at least 3 of the top 10 CWOSSA senior boy runners who likely will not be running their meet on Thursday due to the flu. That's 30% right there. Who are the three runners? |
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Post by oldrunner on Oct 27, 2009 5:18:15 GMT -5
I will be the first to start. I know of at least 3 of the top 10 CWOSSA senior boy runners who likely will not be running their meet on Thursday due to the flu. That's 30% right there. Who are the three runners? Sorry, that's getting too personal to post on a public forum |
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Post by livefree on Oct 27, 2009 7:19:01 GMT -5
oh man... as much as we tried to avoide it our entirer sr team has come down with something.. or midgets are feeling it to..our jr's are alright but no one cares bout our jr's so dont matter.. but iunno it sucks but what can u do.. as by coach tells us "suck it up and run"
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Post by sunshine on Oct 27, 2009 8:41:37 GMT -5
I heard that when teams like Oregon had members with any kind of sickness they would burn the infected too protect the rest of the team. Take one for the team...
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Post by oldster on Oct 27, 2009 9:09:24 GMT -5
If Kingston is representative of Eastern Ontario in any way (and I can't believe it's not) then the EOSSA qualifier on Friday may look completely different than it would have 2 weeks ago.
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Post by yards on Oct 27, 2009 11:14:20 GMT -5
Yes Ofsaa XC will be impacted this year by sickness. The really important issue though is the long term health of the sick athletes and whether or not it is wise to compete. Runners with a fever and/or chest congestion should be held back by either their parents or high school coaches. This will be a tough call!
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Post by oldster on Oct 27, 2009 12:08:38 GMT -5
Excellent point, yards. Parents and coaches need to know that hard exertion in the presence of fever, not to mention being completely futile, can be very dangerous. A recent and very reputable study reported recently in the NY times (sorry, can't find the link) concluded that long and intense exertion, such as from a hard workout or race, really does compromise the immune system quite dramatically, and for up to a couple of days. When you're dealing with a virus that is potentially fatal in young and otherwise healthy people, you'd be foolish in the extreme to do anything that would greatly lower the body's basic immune response. This is one area where OFSAA mania has to take a backseat to common sense!
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Post by ronb on Oct 27, 2009 12:59:09 GMT -5
Yes Ofsaa XC will be impacted this year by sickness. The really important issue though is the long term health of the sick athletes and whether or not it is wise to compete. Runners with a fever and/or chest congestion should be held back by either their parents or high school coaches. This will be a tough call! Absolutely ! When in doubt, play it safe in this instance. I have a couple of horror stories already from this Fall, and that is even without the added exertion and immune-system stress of a tough race. Any coach who is just saying "suck it up and run" should be re-thinking that position... |
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Post by oldrunner on Oct 27, 2009 18:39:41 GMT -5
No one should feel they have to compete when they are down with flu. And I agree, coaches who say "suck it up" should also do the same when they have the flu. I am seeing first hand how sick these young men and women are, and there is no way in heaven or earth that they could run a cross country race. Life is far more important than any race.
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Post by ronb on Oct 27, 2009 18:44:25 GMT -5
Has there been any talk about postponement/cancellation? I don't know the numbers, but if 20-30 % of the team can't run, and another 20-30% (along with their parents and coaches and doctors) aren't sure if they should run, in terms of their health, then  |
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Post by Gangster Pre on Oct 27, 2009 18:53:37 GMT -5
drink your vodka folks , it kills the bacteria
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Post by littleman on Oct 27, 2009 18:59:29 GMT -5
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Post by oldrunner on Oct 27, 2009 19:12:24 GMT -5
drink your vodka folks , it kills the bacteria Flu is caused by a virus, not bacteria. That said, a good stiff drink is the worse thing you can drink when you're sick  |
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Post by 1500rr on Oct 27, 2009 20:22:14 GMT -5
what is best to avoid the H1N1 flu?
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Post by oldrunner on Oct 27, 2009 20:31:43 GMT -5
Lots and lots of handwashing. It's the most basic and effective means of prevention. Especially before preparing and eating food.
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Post by ronb on Oct 27, 2009 20:37:55 GMT -5
Do your best to avoid crowds of people....Not easy, but someone in that crowd is carrying the virus, almost guaranteed right now...
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Post by runner141 on Oct 27, 2009 21:10:45 GMT -5
Do your best to avoid crowds of people....Not easy, but someone in that crowd is carrying the virus, almost guaranteed right now... Aren't there large crowds at OFSAA from all over the province???Good idea? |
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Post by bg16 on Oct 27, 2009 21:53:05 GMT -5
if you avoid touching your face as much as possible that would help too.
Also for people who are really paranoid about the flu (i.e a family member, or someone you have come into contact with frequently has the flu), rinsing your mouth with salt water once a day is a simple preventative measure that is often overlooked. Some people will go as far as swabbing your nostrils with a tissue soaked in salt water. This supposedly kills the virus before it gets into your system.
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Post by yards on Oct 28, 2009 10:26:55 GMT -5
Prevent Swine Flu - Good Advice 1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications). 2. "Hands-off-the-face" approach. Resist all temptations to touch any part of face (except to eat or bathe). 3. *Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you don't trust salt). *H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one. Don't underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method. 4. Similar to 3 above, *clean your nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water. *Not everybody may be good at using a Neti pot to clean nasal cavities, but *blowing the nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.* 5. *Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Amla and other citrus fruits). *If you have to supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost absorption. 6. *Drink as much of warm liquids (tea, coffee, etc) as you can. *Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse direction. They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any harm. www.livewellamerica.org/blog/?p=478 |
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Post by spartan on Oct 28, 2009 17:49:23 GMT -5
Gargling and then swallowing oregano oil (2 drops in 1 oz water) is also very effective rather than just salt.
Good to keep you healthy form other colds and stuff as well as the flu virus.
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Post by ronb on Oct 28, 2009 18:01:23 GMT -5
Eat as much raw garlic as you can....seriously...
It seems to kill off a bunch of nasty little bugs (the serious part)
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It will keep others away, who may be about to infect you...
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Post by henry25 on Oct 29, 2009 17:35:52 GMT -5
an example of flu taking over OFSAA as Pickering and Cameron Heights barely qualified (when they handily shouldve), two of the best schools in Ontario.
Fixed lol
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Post by borisp on Oct 29, 2009 17:39:34 GMT -5
I heard 2nd hand from one of my runners that was texting a member of the Cameron team that they DID qualify.
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Post by oldrunner on Oct 29, 2009 19:30:58 GMT -5
Cameron did qualify but barely. Their #1 and #2 runners are down with the flu (yes THAT one) and have been out ever since their District meet last week. In fact, their #2 runner finished about 225th, which is pretty uncharacteristic.
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