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Post by wejo on Aug 21, 2004 14:43:10 GMT -5
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Post by pleasure dawg on Aug 21, 2004 16:36:43 GMT -5
Very few people will come out of University in the top 12. This is a correct statement. HOWEVER, lets not forget that there is a developemental card that covers tuition and 500 a month. No thats not a lottery, but it's enough to let the student focus on academics and athletics, especially when you consider each school can offer 2500 in the OUA and 3500 + neccessities in the non OUA conferences. Now not all schools offer money, however if someone is pushing top 12 in the world, I guarantee schools will find a way to help the student out.
It is my belief if you are not top 12 in the world by the time you are 24-26, you never will be. Funding needs to increase BUT it should not just be thrown at every recreational runner who doesn't know when to hang them up after university. If you can't make money off the sport on your own abilities, then don't expect your government to step up and help.
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Post by Mr Guest on Aug 21, 2004 17:06:35 GMT -5
>It is my belief if you are not top 12 in the world by the time you are 24-26, you never will be.
Good thing Courtney Babcock wasn't listening to you.
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Post by 5000man on Aug 22, 2004 9:57:12 GMT -5
I don't think the majority of the public knows who CB is since she never medalled, nor will she ever. That is exactly my point, she will never be a medal threat.
Young male distance runners who should be recieving funds in this country.
Hayden, Bairu, Brannan, Ellarton, Mckenzie, (but only for 2 years, then he will be too old if he hasn't done anything by then)
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Post by Little Georgie C on Aug 22, 2004 15:12:15 GMT -5
Well 5000man.... Then those 5 guys could run around the track together, however, they are mostly in different races so I'd like to see the quality of those races. I'd love to see a one perosn race at nationals!!! ya good idea. Do you think the rest of us will stick around in the sport if only those 5 are funded?  hahaha I'll be knocking guys over to beat them to the exit! I'd like to hear what Reid and Gary think of your post??? 5000 runner = meathead = 15:30 guy |
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Post by x 5000m man on Aug 22, 2004 18:44:03 GMT -5
Are you kidding me. Since when did obtaining a medal become the criteria for getting carding. Courtney Babcock is light years ahead of every guy that you listed on your young runners that deserve carding. Being with the leaders with a lap to go at the worlds last year shows this. You must somehow think that these are the guys that will medal for canada in the future. What a crock, did you watch the 10,000m the other day? I do agree that these guys should be funded but dont go stating that a runner like CB shouldnt. The women in this country have a much better chance at running at the worlds elite when compared to the men you have just listed.
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Post by bert on Aug 23, 2004 9:36:19 GMT -5
You talk about training centres to develop athletes and funding what good did it do the swimmers. They have a national training centre a national coach and in 45 odd swims produced only 5 or 6 pbs. We send athletes to the games who for what ever reason fail to perform up to standards that they have already accomplished let along rise above them. I'm not talking medal performances just putting up a pb when the pressure is on the line. Look at the mens 8 in rowing undefeated for two years what did they do on the day it counted.
How do we help our athletes prepare themselves so they are peaking at the right time and able to handle the pressure on the day. Maybe with the standards so tough and athletes need to put so much effort into making the olympic team they have a let down when they get there. What should be done to address the lack of performance when it counts??
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Post by funding on Aug 23, 2004 10:14:23 GMT -5
Please tell me that was a joke about Reid getting upset about funding...if he gets funding then I'm moving countries.
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Post by x swimmer on Aug 23, 2004 12:57:46 GMT -5
you can't compare pb's set while winning (or close to it)heats to racing at the olympics where you're getting drilled by the likes of hackett and the thorpedo. The difference is the water. Slower = outside = rough water = slower time for equal effort. It's like comparing pb's of wind aided vs. non wind-aided 100m dashes. Sorry to bust your bubble. Alas, I'm sure if you got off your butt, actually trained, had some talent, andeventually got some cash from the govt, then made it past the crazy standards you would without a doub pb. It's too bad for canada you're that lazy i guess. maybe in 2008? ..... not likely
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Post by sully for president on Aug 23, 2004 18:52:19 GMT -5
Bert,
I'm glad you listened to Mark Tewksbury the other night on CBC but you're comaparing apples to oranges.
The training centres for running are different. The runners still compete in the club system and many train with clubs that are affiliated with the NEC's.
If you want to make a similar comparison to younger athletes not being able to compete against elite athletes and train with them then you need to look at the athletes based in the U.S. They barely compete in Canada and aren't in much contact with the younger athletes. These athletes don't owe anything to younger athletes but it would be nice if they had more contact with them...
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Post by Alan on Aug 23, 2004 19:17:38 GMT -5
What do you propose the 5000m and 1500m standards would be before someone got funding? Do you honestly think 13:31 isn't fast enough? Please tell me that was a joke about Reid getting upset about funding...if he gets funding then I'm moving countries. |
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Post by what morons on Aug 24, 2004 0:07:47 GMT -5
How bout you all take a few drinks and drive home?
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