Canadian Nationals Cross Country 2004

[myers]

Well Bomba, it's not the ONLY negative. There is the problem of where to hold the race. Right coasters might not appreciate a schedule that alternates between Vancouver and Victoria year by year.
However, other than this point, I totally agree with you. I think it was fairly obvious that many of our long course runners weren't in top shape for worlds. I don't think this was due to laziness -- there's just a lot that can happen (injuries, illness, etc) between late November and March.
If the location problem could be solved, I'd be wholly in favour of a February race.

[mbomba]

if u can't run a decent race in feb then u shouldn't be going....all a Nov race shows is who is fit 4 months before worlds...and i will say this yr after yr....a Nov race has a negative impact on proper 'base' building phase of training....racing in Nov is not bad...peaking in Nov is......hell most people r just getting into shape by then....or else they are coming down becuase they tried to take the shortcuts and rush things....

[Eric]

Kiauka to win!!!

[John Running Room]

I think Kiauka does have a chance. He's strong in the mud and really tough early in races....like national track!!!!
Kiauka for Prez!!

[ccxc]

this post might be a little late-i was just flipping through the threads and came across this one to note that it had turned into a debate of whether or not athletes should attend university in the U.S.
One of the arguments against going to school in the U.S. brought up the fact that many athletes end up returning and if they dont its "because their grades aren't good enough to get into a Canadian school"!!! I may be just one person that went to the U.S. looking for a better academic/athletic oportunity - even though i did get into every program i applied to - first draft- in CAN- and I currently find that the experience is amazing, and that the NCAA does a great job of promoting student athletes. But I can speak for a number of other distance athletes (many of whom went to the states because there wasnt a program in CAN that came close to the one they're in-ACADEMICALLY-) SO, if you stayed in canada/came back, because you felt like being close to home, or because you feel that the academics are better (which a maclean's mag. uni analyst said was a mistake-she said if you could get to the U.S. for university, you should go) than get you're degree and shut the fuck up. Just because ppl choose to go to the states doesnt mean that its because we're not intelligent enough to maintain TOP marks in canada.

*Note - the person who made me post this- out of sheer frustration/annoyance -posted under the name "because" on the first page of the thread.

[because]

I'm not sure if it was me who posted that or not.. but it may have been... either way, the quote is: "The only reason they stayed was because they couldn't get into a canadian school, or thought they couldn't afford it."

so, as you can see, there is no mention of maint6aining "TOP" marks in a canadian school. What is mentioned is that they either couldn't get into a canadian school in the first place, or they thought they couldn't afford it. Now, if we assume that it was I who made the previous post (not knowing wheter it was or not... but thinking that it was...) This post was made based on feed back from a number of people who had gone down south. If you were able to go to a quality academic school down south, then good for you. But most people don't do that.

[ccxc]

and im saying you're full of shit. "the only reason"??!! give me a break. you're saying that everyone who could get back into canada on an academic basis would. where do you get this from? what if people dont transfer back to canada simply because they prefer the overall experience in the states? clearly you're wrong-most ppl that go there are staying there and some come home because they realize it wasnt the right fit. but i dont see where you get off criticizing the majority of ppl that stay in the states by saying that they would return if they could cut it academically-i can, my fellow training parters could , and many-MANY others could-they simply dont want to-you mr. "because" are full of shit!

[vulgar]

Hey ccxc... Yes there are flaws with because's argument - likely based on sources - but at least he/she is trying to have a clean debate. I'm sure you're smart enough to do well at canadian schools and at US schools... so why do you insist on arguing like a vulgar 15 year old? You might also want to re-read the post because it mentioned other things than purely marks... you're just on tunnel-vision right now dude. Attack the logic, not the person, and you'll seem much more convincing.

[hey]

What do u guys think the top 15 will be in the junior boys race

[because]

Guest-ccxc said:

you're saying that everyone who could get back into canada on an academic basis would.

That is not what I said.

[Southerner]

Why is it that there is no Nationals Short Course??