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Post by coldneck on Mar 2, 2004 19:58:55 GMT -5
I was so pumped when I saw the MAC attack run to a new level at OU's. They didn't take any crap and went for it. Seems they missed CI's by .04 (7:53.66 to .70 at OUA's). Thats gotta be really frustrating especially since they got bumped by two teams that haven't broken 8 minutes. (too bad Sherbrooke didn't win QSSF).
Good luck to all going to CI's...
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Post by McCabe on Mar 2, 2004 22:42:22 GMT -5
I think there are a few people in Montreal who feel the same pain as Mac. We ran a 7:54.1 and aren't going even though two teams over 8:00 are.
In fairness Laval has a solid team including Blouin (3:54), Gill (1:19, 2:28), and Gino L. (1:23). They just ran qssfs to win. I'm sure Dal also thinks they can go well under 8:00.
I would really prefer that teams shouldn't pick up auto qualifying spots in the 4x800. In retrospect we should have all scratched the 1500 and tried to beat Laval.
Also it appeared that Morency is injured even though he's entered in the 1000 and 600 for CIS. He didn't finish either race at Provincials and was a major reason that the Sherbrooke 4x800 wasn't competitive at qssf.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a few schools north of 7:55 at CIS and its too bad a school like Mac isn't allowed to put their boys in the mix because they can probably do much better.
Sorry if people take offence.
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davidson
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Post by davidson on Mar 3, 2004 0:17:38 GMT -5
Hey Reid, who was on the Mac 4x8?? Solid run guys. Way to represent Steeltown!
Jeff, the reason for the auto-qualifiers (as I'm sure you know, but for people who don't) is that this is a National championship, and all regions should be represented. What if the only people who made standard (and the rest of the top 10 or 12) were from one region? Wouldn't be right I don't think. Also, you have to be fair to teams that ran tactical races in their championship meets. And you have to remember, that there is only auto-qualifying spots for Winning a championship meet or for making standard. If more than 10 (or 12) teams or athletes do this in a particular event, they all go. I think if people want to go to CI's they should aspire to qualify in one of those two ways, because anything can happen.
As for teams underperforming. It happens. Look at last years results. There were a good number of teams well over 8mins last year. But they still earned their spots. It would be awesome if everyone who ran a good time could go to CI's but that wouldn't really be feasable. Someone has to draw the line somewhere and unfortunately there is always someone who just misses.
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Post by Scobie on Mar 3, 2004 1:14:09 GMT -5
Reid,
The Dalhousie team wasn't going because their athletic director was afraid of doing just that. Sending a team that wasn't good enough and bumping a stronger team from CW or Ontario. So the Dal boys went down to the track (dalplex) last minute and ran themselves a handtimed 800m race to prove to the AD they were fit. When the dust settled and you added up their times it came to 7:52, so they are going. They aren't just a free ride team. Atleast that is what i heard.
-Scobie
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Post by mcbride on Mar 3, 2004 7:35:52 GMT -5
This is true what Scobie is saying. The only 4 by 800m we were able run this year, besides the championship on a 167m track, was at the dalplex during a blizzard, so were the only team there. We ran 8:01 at that point. So after we earned our automatic birth at the championship meet we proved to our coach and to our ad in a time trial that we belong at the cis championship. I apologize to those team that were in the top 10 that don't get to go, but you have to see our side as well.
Thanks,
Nick
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Post by coldneck on Mar 3, 2004 10:04:11 GMT -5
If you read my post I was not discussing whether or not Laval and Dal deserve or don't deserve to go, which is a good discussion. I was just saying MAC was really close after stepping up huge and it has to be frustrating when teams bump you out that haven't broken 8 minutes. I understand Dal and Laval have good teams and could step it up but the fact remains that they haven't been on the better side of 8 minutes.
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Post by fletch on Mar 3, 2004 13:05:08 GMT -5
I seem to recall a certain 8:02 team going into CI's and finishing 5th in the 2000 4x8, despite everyone saying "they didn't deserve to be there". The point is, anything can happen at CI's, especially in relays. If you're in the race, you have a chance to win it, regarless of seed times going in. I wish the Dal boys the best of luck.
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Post by RConn on Mar 3, 2004 14:38:45 GMT -5
I seem to recall a certain 8:02 team going into CI's and finishing 5th in the 2000 4x8, despite everyone saying "they didn't deserve to be there". In 2000 at CI's UVic finished 5th in the 4x800, after winning their conference in a faster time than what they ran at CIS...do you mean McGill in 2001 or 1999? |
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Post by fletch on Mar 3, 2004 18:22:56 GMT -5
my mistake...the team I was refering to finished 6th, running 7:51 after going in with an 8:02 seed time.
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