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Post by Frenchie on Jul 28, 2007 13:53:48 GMT -5
1500m Women ; Official result Rank Lane ID NAME PB TEAM RESULT 1 16 512 DONOHUE ERIN 4:08.22 USA 4:05.55 2 17 34 FLANAGAN SHALANE 4:05.86 USA 4:06.24 3 14 41 MORTIMER AMY 4:06.55 USA 4:07.23 4 11 42 MUNCAN MARINA 4:09.01 SRB 4:09.78 5 10 51 DEATHERAGE JENELLE 4:07.87 USA 4:10.57 6 13 40 MCWILLIAMS TIFFANY 4:06.30 USA 4:10.72 7 15 38 KVARBERG RAGNHILD 4:07.14 NOR 4:10.95 8 8 43 SHADLE ANN 4:08.60 USA 4:12.28 9 6 36 HOWARD JULIA 4:14:53 CAN 4:12.32 10 7 46 CHEMTAI ESTHER 4:15.10 KEN 4:13.61 11 12 35 HALL SARA 4:08.99 USA 4:14.07 12 5 52 ETALEMAHU KIDANE ETH 4:14.35 13 1 39 MAKESTAD INGVILL 4:13.58 NOR 4:15.18 14 9 50 BELETE MIMI 4.13.55 ETH 4:16.27 15 19 33 DRUMM ORLA 4.16.99 IRL 4:16.33 16 2 48 GREEN NIKEYA 4:21.58 USA 4:17.51 17 18 31 BORST SELMA 4.19.84 NED 4:20.53 18 3 47 XENIA LUXEM 4:22.56 BEL 4:21.41 19 4 37 JOHNSTONE REBECCA 4:20.18 CAN 4:25.22 20 21 44 VAN EYNDE SARAH 4:28.53 BEL 4:28.05 20 45 TETERIS AIMEE USA DNF
1500m Men B ; Official result Rank Lane ID NAME PB TEAM RESULT 1 20 341 BARMASAI MOSES 3:39.61 KEN 3:38.74 2 19 344 HYETT GARETH 3:38.63 NZL 3:38.89 3 7 696 WOODS BRADLEY 3.40.44 AUS 3:39.14 4 15 347 DIRSHE RIZAK 3:38.47 SWE 3:39.30 5 17 345 JEFFERSON JOHN 3:39.70 USA 3:39.44 6 14 351 MCKENZIE RYAN 3:38.05 CAN 3:39.94 7 6 350 LABOVSKYY MIKOLA 3:39.13 UKR 3:40.52 8 5 354 REALE LIAM 3:38.65 IRL 3:40.96 9 12 358 SMITH MAX 3:39.93 NZL 3:41.53 10 1 690 VANDERMARLIERE KOEN 3:42.16 BEL 3:41.65 11 11 32 MARRION GEOFFREY 3:43.07 BEL 3:42.03 12 13 356 RUELL KIM 3:43.93 BEL 3:42.51 13 8 363 WATANABE KAZUYA 3:41.07 JPN 3:42.73 14 18 20 MC GRATH MICHAEL USA 3:43.77 15 2 364 LONGERICH RICARDO 3:45.40 BEL 3:45.89 16 16 346 JEFFERSON SEAN 3:38.91 USA 3:47.05 3 362 VANWAEYENBERGHE MARIO 3:42.28 BEL DNF 10 359 TSUTSUMI DAIKI JPN DNF 21 343 WARRENBURG RYAN PACE USA DNF 9 360 VAN ROOY TOM 3:39.90 BEL DNF 4 357 SHERER STEVE 3:41.05 USA DNF
800m Men ; Official result Rank Lane ID NAME PB TEAM RESULT 1 8 280 WEBB ALAN 1:45.80 USA 1:43.84 2 5 276 REED GARY 1:43.93 CAN 1:44.03 3 11 273 MADI NABIL 1:44.83 ALG 1:44.54 4 6 271 JOHNSON JONATHAN 1:44.77 USA 1:44.69 5 7 278 SYMMONDS NICK 1:44.54 USA 1:45.49 6 4 275 OKKEN ARNOUD 1:45.64 NED 1:45.88 7 10 277 SOM BRAM 1:43.85 NED 1:46.00 8 2 279 KANDIE DANIEL 1:48.3 KEN 1:46.27 9 3 274 MATTHYS THOMAS 1:45.75 BEL 1:46.77 10 13 285 KRUMMENACKER DAVID 1:43.92 USA 1:47.01 11 14 282 ROSSEEUW MATTHIAS 1:47.63 BEL 1:47.19 12 12 291 CHAMNEY THOMAS 1:46.46 IRL 1:47.20 13 1 281 NDIWA LINUS 1:46.30 KEN 1:47.29 9 297 NAHASHON RUTO PACE KEN DNF
I know this has been posted already but I like to put the canucks in bold.
1 11 406 DOBSON IAN 13:15.33 USA 13:18.87 2 10 428 RILEY JONATHAN 13:21.11 USA 13:19.92 3 3 702 YUICHIRO UENO 13:35.68 JPN 13:21.49 4 14 405 COOLSAET REID 13:23.30 CAN 13:21.53 5 12 414 MORRISSON PAUL 13:26.57 CAN 13:22.39 6 7 408 GRAHAM SEAN 13:29.30 USA 13:23.50 7 32 780 SJOQVIST ERIK 13:23.24 SWE 13:25.37 8 1 401 BAIRU SIMON 13:36.28 CAN 13:25.91 9 31 411 KIPROTICH STEVEN UGA 13:27.40 10 23 425 DAME TASAMA FAYISA 13:47.03 ETH 13:33.27 11 18 402 BANDI PHILIP 13:43.21 SUI 13:35.26 12 2 700 CARLSON IAN 13:32.71 USA 13:35.86 13 34 735 GILLES ERIC 13.41.83 CAN 13:36.78 14 27 732 GAHUNGU VITAL 13:42.69 BDI 13:38.19 15 13 731 GABRIELSON MATT 13:30.68 USA 13:38.96 16 21 426 FAYS GUY 13:37.71 BEL 13:41.59 17 9 410 KING KYLE 13:33.44 USA 13:41.71 18 15 412 MAEDA KAZUHIRO 13:28.84 JPN 13:43.58 19 4 407 FAGAN MARTIN 13:39.62 IRL 13:44.11 20 28 423 PAPANTONIS ANTONIOS GRE 13:44.91 21 6 409 HAAS STEPHEN 13:38.51 USA 13:44.93 22 30 429 ANASTASIOS FRAGGOS 13:48.82 GRE 13:45.77 23 5 416 ODA YOSHINORI 13:42.67 JPN 13:46.99 24 22 418 STEINBAUER MARTIN 13:41.04 AUT 13:47.22 25 24 419 STITZINGER PATRICK 13:57.98 NED 13:47.51 26 26 404 BOLLEN FRANK 14:24.66 BEL 13:53.85 27 20 415 NELSON TIMOTHY 13:42.18 USA 13:55.24 28 8 413 MORGAN THOMAS 13:36.91 USA 14:05.33 29 19 424 BUTTER MICHEL 13:55.56 NED 14:15.78 30 33 403 BEDANE DADI URGE ETH 14:26.06
...this is kind of like the last three years when canadian teams got to cup final only to lose it to some cheesy team from the states...
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Post by herodotus on Jul 28, 2007 14:33:27 GMT -5
1:43.85!!! I think Webb can run a 3:28 this year. Gary keeps getting faster. Go Canadian 5k Guys!!!
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Post by HHH on Jul 28, 2007 14:36:09 GMT -5
Wow, impressive result for Mr Webb. Nice job by RMac too to get under 3:40.
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Post by Linc on Jul 28, 2007 15:15:58 GMT -5
5km A section
1 11 371 BADAY AHMED MAR 13:11.09 2 8 393 WARGA SAHLE BETONA ETH 13:11.40 3 9 400 GENETI MARKOS ETH 13:11.80 4 22 390 SOLINSKY CHRIS USA 13:12.24 5 20 387 MATSUMIYA TAKAYUKI JPN 13:13.20 6 16 396 KIPRUTO SILAS KEN 13:13.95 7 4 381 FITSCHEN JAN GER 13:14.85 8 24 392 BOLOTA ASMERON USA 13:15.16 9 7 384 KHOUDIR AGGOUNE ALG 13:15.79 10 25 394 YIGEZA LISHAN ETH 13:17.99 11 21 399 TAKEZAWAĆ KENSUKE JPN 13:19.00 12 19 375 CHEBOIYWO BOAZ KEN 13:20.72 13 5 398 KHAMIS ZAMAN SULTAN QAT 13:32.46 14 2 376 COMPERNOLLE TOM BEL 13:33.55 15 14 391 TSIGE SOLOMON ETH 13:35.48 16 6 395 KHAMIS ADAM ISMAEEL BRN 13:35.96 17 18 397 ESSA ISMAIL RASHEED QAT 13:37.63 18 17 379 ESSAƬD MUSTAPHA FRA 13:57.89
Big run by the 2 Americans...also Taylor Milne 3:43.32 in the final section of the Nationals.
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Post by herodotus on Jul 28, 2007 15:56:00 GMT -5
Waiting to see how our Canadian friends did in the 5000 is killing me. How about you?
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Post by HHH on Jul 28, 2007 15:58:59 GMT -5
Totally. Just sent you a PM Hero.
Matt
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Post by goodale on Jul 28, 2007 16:02:54 GMT -5
ahhhhhh sooo close!!!!!!
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Post by goodale on Jul 28, 2007 16:04:31 GMT -5
results are up... nice pbs for the 5k guys
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Post by HHH on Jul 28, 2007 16:04:58 GMT -5
Nice try guys.
Matt
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Post by Linc on Jul 28, 2007 16:06:04 GMT -5
1 11 406 DOBSON IAN 13:15.33 USA 13:18.87 2 10 428 RILEY JONATHAN 13:21.11 USA 13:19.92 3 3 702 YUICHIRO UENO 13:35.68 JPN 13:21.49 4 14 405 COOLSAET REID 13:23.30 CAN 13:21.53 5 12 414 MORRISSON PAUL 13:26.57 CAN 13:22.39 6 7 408 GRAHAM SEAN 13:29.30 USA 13:23.50 7 32 780 SJOQVIST ERIK 13:23.24 SWE 13:25.37 8 1 401 BAIRU SIMON 13:36.28 CAN 13:25.91 9 31 411 KIPROTICH STEVEN UGA 13:27.40 10 23 425 DAME TASAMA FAYISA 13:47.03 ETH 13:33.27 11 18 402 BANDI PHILIP 13:43.21 SUI 13:35.26 12 2 700 CARLSON IAN 13:32.71 USA 13:35.86 13 34 735 GILLES ERIC 13.41.83 CAN 13:36.78 14 27 732 GAHUNGU VITAL 13:42.69 BDI 13:38.19 15 13 731 GABRIELSON MATT 13:30.68 USA 13:38.96 16 21 426 FAYS GUY 13:37.71 BEL 13:41.59 17 9 410 KING KYLE 13:33.44 USA 13:41.71 18 15 412 MAEDA KAZUHIRO 13:28.84 JPN 13:43.58 19 4 407 FAGAN MARTIN 13:39.62 IRL 13:44.11 20 28 423 PAPANTONIS ANTONIOS GRE 13:44.91 21 6 409 HAAS STEPHEN 13:38.51 USA 13:44.93 22 30 429 ANASTASIOS FRAGGOS 13:48.82 GRE 13:45.77 23 5 416 ODA YOSHINORI 13:42.67 JPN 13:46.99 24 22 418 STEINBAUER MARTIN 13:41.04 AUT 13:47.22 25 24 419 STITZINGER PATRICK 13:57.98 NED 13:47.51 26 26 404 BOLLEN FRANK 14:24.66 BEL 13:53.85 27 20 415 NELSON TIMOTHY 13:42.18 USA 13:55.24 28 8 413 MORGAN THOMAS 13:36.91 USA 14:05.33 29 19 424 BUTTER MICHEL 13:55.56 NED 14:15.78 30 33 403 BEDANE DADI URGE ETH 14:26.06
not a bad race for the 4 canadians!! too bad they missed the 13:19.71 though. Congratulations on a nice race anyways!
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Post by kitest on Jul 28, 2007 16:12:17 GMT -5
congrats guys, tough luck reid & paul
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Post by herodotus on Jul 28, 2007 16:16:48 GMT -5
Wow. Heartbreaker in a way, but Wow - all PRs??? I'm so proud of those guys. I know they'll be disappointed for not getting that effing standard, but look what they DID get!
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Post by ronb on Jul 28, 2007 16:33:30 GMT -5
The greatest day in the history of Canadian Men @ 5K, said with total respect for Schiebler, Bunston, Williams, McCloy, Nelson, etc... 3 of the fastest times ever, and a great run by Eric as well. And no-one gets to Osaka? What's wrong with this picture?
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Post by herodotus on Jul 28, 2007 16:37:57 GMT -5
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!
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Post by cacofonix on Jul 28, 2007 18:33:45 GMT -5
And no-one gets to Osaka? What's wrong with this picture? I won't disagree that it's a shame Canada isn't following the IAAF standards, but the impact of this right now is on only one individual - Reid Coolseat. IAAF A standard is 13:21.50, B standard 13:28.00. So Canada right now has three guys with B, none with A (Reid just missing it by 0.03). While iaaf.org/statistics/standards/xml=osaka_2007/index.html says a country can enter two athletes with a B standard, only one can compete. Had Reid gone that little bit faster and picked up the IAAF A, both he and Morrison could have been eligible to be entered AND both could compete (as per IAAF rules). Granted it's a whole lot more confusing when AC gets their hands into the mix. From their criteria at www.athleticscanada.com/files//NationalTeamPrograms/Events/2007/2007WORLDCHAMPIONSHIPSSELECTIONCRITERIAFINALREVISEDEN1.PDF is looks like even if they had run super-fast, they'd still need another performance, either a B+ (13:25.40) if they'd just broken 13:28, or a B (13:28) if they'd broken 13:19.71. I don't believe any of them had any other sub 13:28s this year, so it's a moot point. Still, don't let this distract from the justified complaints about AC's bureaucratic meddling in coming up with their additional standards for qualifying.
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Post by feens on Jul 28, 2007 18:50:54 GMT -5
Osaka would be the perfect opportunity for AC to help an athlete like Reid develop too...now a 4 time National champion, who is having an amazing year and one would assume next year will make standard to to to Beijing...only a couple of seconds off qualifying by their tougher standards. If they looked at the bigger picture, they may even be able to see a way to benefit themselves next year with him having a better performance when he gets there.
Regardless, great race guys. It's really exciting to distance running starting to shape up so well in Canada with the Olympics on the horizon.
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Post by HHH on Jul 28, 2007 19:00:13 GMT -5
And no-one gets to Osaka? What's wrong with this picture? I won't disagree that it's a shame Canada isn't following the IAAF standards, but the impact of this right now is on only one individual - Reid Coolseat. IAAF A standard is 13:21.50, B standard 13:28.00. So Canada right now has three guys with B, none with A (Reid just missing it by 0.03). While iaaf.org/statistics/standards/xml=osaka_2007/index.html says a country can enter two athletes with a B standard, only one can compete. Had Reid gone that little bit faster and picked up the IAAF A, both he and Morrison could have been eligible to be entered AND both could compete (as per IAAF rules). Granted it's a whole lot more confusing when AC gets their hands into the mix. From their criteria at www.athleticscanada.com/files//NationalTeamPrograms/Events/2007/2007WORLDCHAMPIONSHIPSSELECTIONCRITERIAFINALREVISEDEN1.PDF is looks like even if they had run super-fast, they'd still need another performance, either a B+ (13:25.40) if they'd just broken 13:28, or a B (13:28) if they'd broken 13:19.71. I don't believe any of them had any other sub 13:28s this year, so it's a moot point. Still, don't let this distract from the justified complaints about AC's bureaucratic meddling in coming up with their additional standards for qualifying. So AC could send Reid to race if they wanted to correct? If so, he should consider taking this up legally. I'm not sure he'd win in a court of law but it would be interesting to see AC sweat a bit.
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Post by cacofonix on Jul 28, 2007 19:19:43 GMT -5
So AC could send Reid to race if they wanted to correct? If so, he should consider taking this up legally. I'm not sure he'd win in a court of law but it would be interesting to see AC sweat a bit. As far as the IAAF is concerned, Reid has qualified. I don't see though where there is a case that AC doesn't have the right to decide who they want to take from amongst those qualifiers. But sure, why not get AC to spend more of those precious development dollars on lawyers. They must be a dime a dozen, no?
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Post by SI on Jul 28, 2007 19:48:29 GMT -5
The greatest day in the history of Canadian Men @ 5K, said with total respect for Schiebler, Bunston, Williams, McCloy, Nelson, etc... 3 of the fastest times ever, and a great run by Eric as well. And no-one gets to Osaka? What's wrong with this picture? I am not in any way shape or form taking anything away from those guys but, hyperbole alert.
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Post by SI on Jul 28, 2007 19:50:00 GMT -5
So AC could send Reid to race if they wanted to correct? If so, he should consider taking this up legally. I'm not sure he'd win in a court of law but it would be interesting to see AC sweat a bit. Paging jasonbee. Been there done that.
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Post by SI on Jul 28, 2007 19:56:02 GMT -5
I won't disagree that it's a shame Canada isn't following the IAAF standards, but the impact of this right now is on only one individual - Reid Coolseat. IAAF A standard is 13:21.50, B standard 13:28.00. So Canada right now has three guys with B, none with A (Reid just missing it by 0.03). Silly me thinking our A was the same as the IAAF's.
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Post by herodotus on Jul 28, 2007 19:58:52 GMT -5
The greatest day in the history of Canadian Men @ 5K, said with total respect for Schiebler, Bunston, Williams, McCloy, Nelson, etc... 3 of the fastest times ever, and a great run by Eric as well. And no-one gets to Osaka? What's wrong with this picture? I am not in any way shape or form taking anything away from those guys but, hyperbole alert. Knowing Ron, he will want to respond to that! I hope his earlier post wasn't just a "one-off", and that all is well. You are missed, especially around Vic, Ron. Now someone get me the all time 5000m list for Canadians, and quickly....
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Post by SI on Jul 28, 2007 20:10:23 GMT -5
Second and fourth.
13:13.96 Jeffrey Schiebler 73 11 Berlin Ger Sep 01 98 13:22.06 Jason Bunston 72 3 Hechtel BEL Jun 06 96 13:22.68 Paul Williams 56 9 Oslo Norway Jul 02 88 13:23.30 Reid Coolsaet 79 10 London GBR Jul 22 05 13:25.16 Sean Kaley 75 1 Victoria Aug 11 00 13:26.57 Paul Morrison 80 7h3 Walnut CA Apr 16 04 13:27.29 Kevin Sullivan 74 4 Walnut CA Apr 15 05 13:27.65 Paul McCloy 63 7 Eugene OR Jun 07 86 13:29.20 Carey Nelson 63 8sf Rome ITA Sep 04 87 13:30.76 Graeme Fell 59 2 Shikuoka JAP May 07 89 10 13:32.53 Mathew Kerr 76 4 Victoria Jun 11 03 13:33.05 Kurt Benninger 85 1 Stanford CA Mar 25 05 13:34.45 Rob Lonergan 59 12 Eugene ORE Jun 07 86 13:34.4 Grant McLaren 48 2 Warsaw POL Jun 30 74 13:34.75 Brendan Matthias 69 5 Victoria Jun 03 92 13:34.92 Jerome Drayton 45 5 Helsinki Fin Jun 25 75 13:34.7 Greg Duhaime 53 2 Burnaby May 26 84 13:35.86 Steve Agar 68 6 Walnut CA May 18 98
If he is going to respond, he will have to do it based on how far on a percentage basis the performances are from the WR at the time. The 5000 has dropped 16 seconds in 20 years. There may have been national championships almost as deep, relatively speaking and they wouldn't have been going for time and no one else was there to help. ONCE AGAIN, I AM NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM THOSE GUYS!!! Just a bit of perspective. coldneck is a bit of a historian of the sport and likely knows this better than anyone.
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Post by HHH on Jul 28, 2007 20:13:25 GMT -5
Paging jasonbee. Been there done that. What happened here?
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Post by ronb on Jul 28, 2007 20:15:02 GMT -5
To Clarify, Today Reid, Paul, and Simon ran 13:21, 13:22, and 13:25, plus a few tenths... What excellent performances, and at the right time of year, and yet we have no-one worthy of representing us at Osaka??? So, what should we tell our next generation of distance runners? These are excellent athletes, talented and dedicated, and they are not worthy of "taking on the World"? This is not an anti-AC position, because I know well all the complications of dealing with funding standards, etc. But, if guys like this aren't worth sending to Worlds, then what the hell are we doing?
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Post by herodotus on Jul 28, 2007 20:20:06 GMT -5
What he said. (Welcome back Ron.) And thanks SI. So, 2nd, 4th, 8th?? today? And damn, there must have been a lot of pressure. Watch these guys go sub 13:20 after Osaka!!!
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Post by herodotus on Jul 28, 2007 20:26:21 GMT -5
The 5000 has dropped 16 seconds in 20 years. 21sec. 12' 37" 35. Kenenisa Bekele, ETH, 31 May 2004, Hengelo 12' 39" 36. Haile Gebreselasie, ETH, 13 Jun 1998, Helsinki 12' 39" 74. Daniel Komen, KEN, 22 Aug 1997, Brussels 12' 41" 86. Haile Gebreselasie, ETH, 13 Aug 1997, Zurich 12' 44" 39. Haile Gebrselassie, ETH, 16 Aug 1995, Zurich 12' 55" 30. Moses Kiptanui, KEN, 06 Jun 1995, Rome 12' 56" 96. Haile Gebrselassie, ETH 04 Jun 1994, Hengelo 12' 58" 39. Said Aouita, MOR, 22 Jul 1987, Rome
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Post by SI on Jul 28, 2007 20:39:27 GMT -5
To Clarify, Today Reid, Paul, and Simon ran 13:21, 13:22, and 13:25, plus a few tenths... What excellent performances, and at the right time of year, and yet we have no-one worthy of representing us at Osaka??? So, what should we tell our next generation of distance runners? These are excellent athletes, talented and dedicated, and they are not worthy of "taking on the World"? This is not an anti-AC position, because I know well all the complications of dealing with funding standards, etc. But, if guys like this aren't worth sending to Worlds, then what the hell are we doing? I agree.
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Post by Frenchie on Jul 28, 2007 21:01:22 GMT -5
Second and fourth. 13:13.96 Jeffrey Schiebler 73 11 Berlin Ger Sep 01 98 13:22.06 Jason Bunston 72 3 Hechtel BEL Jun 06 96 13:22.68 Paul Williams 56 9 Oslo Norway Jul 02 88 13:23.30 Reid Coolsaet 79 10 London GBR Jul 22 05 13:25.16 Sean Kaley 75 1 Victoria Aug 11 00 13:26.57 Paul Morrison 80 7h3 Walnut CA Apr 16 04 13:27.29 Kevin Sullivan 74 4 Walnut CA Apr 15 05 13:27.65 Paul McCloy 63 7 Eugene OR Jun 07 86 13:29.20 Carey Nelson 63 8sf Rome ITA Sep 04 87 13:30.76 Graeme Fell 59 2 Shikuoka JAP May 07 89 10 13:32.53 Mathew Kerr 76 4 Victoria Jun 11 03 13:33.05 Kurt Benninger 85 1 Stanford CA Mar 25 05 13:34.45 Rob Lonergan 59 12 Eugene ORE Jun 07 86 13:34.4 Grant McLaren 48 2 Warsaw POL Jun 30 74 13:34.75 Brendan Matthias 69 5 Victoria Jun 03 92 13:34.92 Jerome Drayton 45 5 Helsinki Fin Jun 25 75 13:34.7 Greg Duhaime 53 2 Burnaby May 26 84 13:35.86 Steve Agar 68 6 Walnut CA May 18 98 Call me a stickler; you forgot Sullivan's 13:19.
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Post by ahutch on Jul 28, 2007 22:01:53 GMT -5
I am not in any way shape or form taking anything away from those guys but, hyperbole alert. Actually, I'd put the onus on you to justify your statement! Ron suggested that this was the greatest day in history for Canadian men at 5K, with three guys going 13:21, 13:22 and 13:25. If that's not the greatest day, then what day was? The only day I could imagine being arguable is Schiebler's 13:13 -- but that's a single performance. What stands out about today is the combination of depth and top times. As far as the world record advancing over the years... If you're running 13:21, it doesn't matter if the WR is 12:58 or 12:37, you're not running for the win either way.
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