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Post by ronb on Oct 9, 2009 19:20:42 GMT -5
Rod Dixon is speaking now, and many others will be talking at the seminars on Saturday.
Sunday, the 1/2 has been capped at 5400, the 8K capped at 2500, and the marathon and kids run are still open...
Looks like 12000 plus in total, and the cool thing is that virtually every Canadian province and territory, and dozens of American states will be represented. Over 800 from Calgary, almost 300 from Seattle, a couple of thousand from the Lower Mainland of B.C., over 1200 from Washington/Oregon/California, etc...
This is the 30th Annual RVM - our sport at it's best !
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Post by 1500rr on Oct 10, 2009 13:10:46 GMT -5
any good runners?
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Post by SI on Oct 10, 2009 13:14:17 GMT -5
That is actually a very good question. I just read this quote this morning from the very first edition of RW which some may or may not agree with:
""It's less important to us for one person to break four minutes in the mile with 50,000 people watching than to have 50,000 running eight-minute miles with no one watching." This would be my central theme as chief propagandist for the magazine: get people running and keep them running, no matter their pace."
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Post by ronb on Oct 10, 2009 14:07:01 GMT -5
There is an article in this morning's Times Colonist, main Sports Page - "Young Kenyans hope to set pace". I'm sure it's online. In addition to a few runners that I am advising, I will be watching Simon Whitfield in the 8K, Jon Brown in the 1/2, Steve Osaduik in the marathon, Marilyn Arsenault in the 1/2, and Cheryl Murphy and Lucy Smith in the marathon. Anybody coming over from the Mainland better get out to the Ferry Terminal soon. All reservations are cancelled, and there are lineups.... Hell of a weekend for one of our big ferries to be down in flames. |
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Post by schester on Oct 10, 2009 15:33:38 GMT -5
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Post by SI on Oct 10, 2009 20:23:10 GMT -5
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Post by wetcoast on Oct 10, 2009 22:51:55 GMT -5
The temps early will be cool, as it will be clear, which is slightly unusual. At the last I heard a few people were delayed in getting to the island, as they waited until the last possible chance in their flight or ferry to get here. However pretty much everyone that matters in the race, Steve Osaduik, Lucy Smith and Cheryl Murphy in the marathon. Watch for the possibility of 3 records to fall...as a possibilty. Half marathon has Jon Brown, who will run 65:00. I beleive the 8k has a strong field. Nearly 1300 people in the 3 events. At the north end of the island over 500kms up, I hid in the bushes and hung around spawning salmon (record runs) seeking bears...I found a big one. He got between me and my escape route....I yelled at him...he backed off and let me by: www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgV_11J1tvg |
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Post by wetcoast on Oct 10, 2009 22:53:25 GMT -5
Jon will run 65:00 or as fast as he needs to, see who pushed him.
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Post by petercorrigan on Oct 10, 2009 23:12:16 GMT -5
There are some pretty decent Kenyans here, they should be make it pretty fast. I've heard rumour of an attempt at the course record.
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Post by wetcoast on Oct 10, 2009 23:33:36 GMT -5
Steve Osaduik owns the record at 2:16:49. Eric the Kenyan I talked to said he will run 2:15. Maybe.....but he hasn't run Victoria. The Kenyans were here before for the Landsend 1/2 marathon and 10k and the half was a slow time and Osaduik and Mosely ran away with the course record and 2nd place way ahead.
I think the performance that is not getting talked about much, but could be GREAT is Lucy Smith...possibly taking the open and master's course record, which is really old and 2:42.
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Post by greener on Oct 11, 2009 13:55:27 GMT -5
Results are posted at RaceHeadquarters: www.raceheadquarters.com/results/2009/run/RVM2009Marathon.htmlTop Men: 1 1/110 M 1/14 Male 25-29 M6 2:19:26 2:19:26 3:19 Hillary Cheruiyot Kenya KENYA 2 2/110 M 1/17 Male 30-34 M1 2:22:42 2:22:42 3:23 Steve Osaduik Langley BC 3 3/110 M 2/14 Male 25-29 M3 2:24:43 2:24:43 3:26 Lameth Mosoti Kenya KENYA 4 4/110 M 2/17 Male 30-34 M7 2:25:32 2:25:32 3:27 Philip Samoei Kenya KENYA 5 5/110 M 1/20 Male 35-39 M9 2:27:58 2:27:58 3:31 Graeme Wilson Vancouver BC 6 6/110 M 3/17 Male 30-34 35 2:29:18 2:29:16 3:33 Dale Hunter Seattle WA USA 7 7/110 M 3/14 Male 25-29 920 2:31:31 2:31:31 3:36 Andrew Heath Atlanta GA USA 8 8/110 M 4/17 Male 30-34 M8 2:32:06 2:32:05 3:37 Jason Effmann Portland OR USA 9 9/110 M 1/15 Male 45-49 23 2:33:45 2:33:43 3:39 Danny Gonzalez Lake Oswego OR USA 10 10/110 M 5/17 Male 30-34 39 2:34:24 2:34:24 3:40 Jonathan Withey Edmonton AB Top Women: 18 1/13 F 1/2 Female 40-44 F1 2:44:01 2:44:01 3:54 Cheryl Murphy Victoria BC 23 2/13 F 1/4 Female 30-34 F8 2:47:29 2:47:27 3:59 Katherine Moore Vancouver BC 24 3/13 F 1/2 Female 35-39 F4 2:48:20 2:48:20 4:00 Suzanne Evans New Westminster BC 36 4/13 F 2/4 Female 30-34 F3 2:51:47 2:51:45 4:05 Gillian Moody Kelowna BC 37 5/13 F 1/3 Female 25-29 F9 2:52:06 2:52:06 4:05 Anne-Marie Madden Vancouver BC 43 6/13 F 2/2 Female 35-39 F6 2:54:41 2:54:40 4:09 Cristina Gomez Aberdeen UK 44 7/13 F 2/3 Female 25-29 1029 2:55:00 2:54:57 4:09 Sharleen Jackson Prince George BC 48 8/13 F 2/2 Female 40-44 F2 2:56:10 2:56:10 4:11 Lucy Smith Sidney BC 69 9/13 F 3/4 Female 30-34 F5 2:59:18 2:59:18 4:15 Rebecca Gallaher Silverdale WA USA 84 10/13 F 3/3 Female 25-29 2144 3:01:35 3:01:25 4:18 Katrina Tucker Millicent SA AUSTRALIA Half Results: www.raceheadquarters.com/results/2009/run/RVM2009Half.htmlTop Finishers: 1 1/1631 M 1/218 Male 35-39 4001 1:04:57 1:04:57 3:05 Jon Brown Victoria BC 2 2/1631 M 2/218 Male 35-39 4003 1:07:58 1:07:58 3:14 James Finlayson Victoria BC 3 3/1631 M 1/194 Male 25-29 4009 1:09:11 1:09:11 3:17 Kristopher Swanson Victoria BC 4 4/1631 M 2/194 Male 25-29 4028 1:09:17 1:09:17 3:18 Josiah Price Tumwater WA USA 5 5/1631 M 3/194 Male 25-29 4007 1:10:09 1:10:09 3:20 Nixon Kiprotich Kenya KENYA 6 6/1631 M 1/77 Male 20-24 4032 1:10:16 1:10:16 3:20 Nick Best Victoria BC 7 7/1631 M 4/194 Male 25-29 4033 1:11:10 1:11:10 3:23 Eric Findlay Victoria BC 8 8/1631 M 1/197 Male 30-34 4008 1:11:25 1:11:25 3:24 Todd Howard Victoria BC 9 9/1631 M 2/197 Male 30-34 4002 1:11:38 1:11:38 3:24 Michael Kasahun Eugene OR USA 10 10/1631 M 5/194 Male 25-29 4010 1:11:52 1:11:52 3:25 Nick Walker Victoria BC 8k Results: www.raceheadquarters.com/results/2009/run/RVM20098K.htmlTop Finishers: 1 1/730 M 1/71 Male 25-29 10002 24:52 24:52 3:07 Matt Clout Victoria BC 2 2/730 M 1/54 Male 20-24 11979 25:28 25:28 3:11 Logan Burke Victoria BC 3 3/730 M 2/54 Male 20-24 10003 25:58 25:58 3:15 Michael MacDiarmada Dublin IRELAND 4 4/730 M 1/68 Male 30-34 10001 26:10 26:09 3:17 Simon Whitfield Victoria BC 5 5/730 M 1/69 Male 35-39 10006 26:11 26:10 3:17 Ian Hallam Victoria BC 6 6/730 M 2/71 Male 25-29 10033 26:34 26:34 3:20 Mark Nelson Victoria BC 7 7/730 M 3/71 Male 25-29 10005 26:35 26:35 3:20 Geoff Reid West Vancouver BC 8 8/730 M 3/54 Male 20-24 10022 26:46 26:46 3:21 Shelby Drope Nanaimo BC 9 9/730 M 2/68 Male 30-34 10009 26:47 26:47 3:21 John Machuga Richmond BC 10 10/730 M 4/54 Male 20-24 11907 26:47 26:46 3:21 Marcel Aarden Victoria BC Any insight into how things played out in the races? |
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Post by SI on Oct 11, 2009 14:46:09 GMT -5
The splits of the first few guys tell the tale in the mary.
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Post by greener on Oct 11, 2009 19:17:13 GMT -5
Was looking for a bit more detail than a half way split. I'll specify, were their pace makers? Did Lameth Mosoti take it hard from the beginning? How was the weather? Etc.
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Post by spaff on Oct 11, 2009 20:00:35 GMT -5
no talk about the women's half, but this may have been the performance of the day....
16 1/2964 F 1/404 Female 40-44 4011 1:15:39 1:15:39 3:36 Marilyn Arsenault Victoria BC
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Post by ronb on Oct 11, 2009 20:26:01 GMT -5
I would agree that Marilyn's run was the POTD. 40 year old, fairly new to serious running, opera singer, student, back at work too, running 1:15.39 ? Marilyn is a wonderful person and runner, and coach Jon Brown is giving her some great advice, obviously. Actually, almost a Vike again this year, but things didn't quite work out that way. Oldster, did I tell you she is a "pose" product  I knew that would make you happy... Greener....the weather was cool at the start, very cool actually. The Kenyans said it was cold. It was about 4 or 5 C. along the water, and there were light breezes, but no heavy winds at all. Between trying to watch many athletes in different races, I didn't get to see too much of the Men's Marathon. I did see they guys go by at about the 6.7 K. mark, and the Kenyans were really hammering. I don't know who was rabbitting or racing, but there were well ahead of Oz. and the rest by that point. I saw them very briefly again on the way back in (maybe about 15 miles?), and I think Oz was still back in 4th. His interview sounded as though he was pleased with his run, ran a bit conservative, but didn't want to get dragged out too fast. I can't say whether he was on the start line hoping to run really fast or not. I'll break this up into a couple of posts, over the next little while. |
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Post by ronb on Oct 11, 2009 20:51:39 GMT -5
Times Colonist online is your friend, if you are a fan of our sport.
From today's edition: (which may be yesterday by the time you read this)
* Thousands hit the streets for race.
* One marathon not enough for two.
* Olympian tale of triumph. (An excerpt from Simon Whitfield's book, which is supposed to be on sale next week). The book is titled "Simon Says Gold: Simon Whitfield's Pursuit of Athletic Excellence".
Then the coverage from today starts...
Lead article is:
"Kenyans dominate as top finishers in Royal Victoria Marathon", but there are more
pictures and stories being posted as I type.
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Post by wetcoast on Oct 12, 2009 1:59:37 GMT -5
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Post by ronb on Oct 12, 2009 11:40:12 GMT -5
Here is a brief summary of some current and past winners at RVM. I hope this is of interest to some... Please note the lists of top 5 are top 5 WINNERS, not necessarily the top 5 performances, as I don't have the data available to do an all time top 10, or something like that. Another project for the future Also worth noting is the Course has changed a bit over the years. RVM - 8 K. (1986 to 2009) - Top 5 winning times. Men 23:23 - Gary Barber, 1989. (Record) 23:33 - Bruce Deacon, 1992. 23:40 - Dave Campbell, 1990. 23:56 - Ryan McKenzie, 2008. 24:02 - Gary Barber, 1988. 2009 winner - Matt Clout - 24:52. Matt graduated from Parklands Secondary in Victoria many years ago, and has been a recreational runner, seldom racing. He is taking his training and racing more seriously now, and is coached by Jon Brown. Women 26:24 - Ulla Marquette, 1991. (Record) 26:28 - Tina Connelly, 1996. 26:37 - Ulla Marquette, 1990. 26:49 - Malindi Elmore, 2004. 26:55 - Angela Chalmers, 1993. 2009 winner - Rachel Ruus, 28:32. Rachel now lives in Vancouver. She ran for the University of Alberta for a year or so, and then transferred out to Uvic. She was a CI first team All Canadian for the Vikes in 1994, finishing 6th. More later. |
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Post by ronb on Oct 12, 2009 12:45:08 GMT -5
RVM - Half Marathon (2001 - 2009) - top 5 winning times.
Men 1:02.32 - Jon Brown, 2002. (Record)
1:03.55 - Jon Brown, 2005.
1:04.57 - Jon Brown, 2009.
1:05.16 - Jon Brown, 2003.
1:06.56 - Jerry Ziak, 2004.
Women 1:15.39 - Marilyn Arsenault, 2009. (Record)
1:16.11 - Lucy Smith, 2007.
1:16.12 - Lucy Smith, 2003.
1:18.01 - Cheryl Murphy, 2006.
1:18.04 - Meghan Day, 2004.
RV Marathon (1980 - 2009) - top 5 winning times
Men 2:16.49 - Steve Osaduik, 2006. (Record)
2:18.49 - Tom Howard, 1981.
2:19.26 - Hillary Cheruiyot, 2009.
2:19.31 - Kevin Titus, 1993.
2:20.14 - Steve Osaduik, 2007.
Women 2:42.32 - Val Chowaniec, 1989. (Record)
2:42.43 - Stephanie Andrews, 1997.
2:43.00 - Cheryl Murphy, 2008.
2:44.01 - Cheryl Murphy, 2009.
2:45.38 - Suzanne Evans, 2007.
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Post by skuja on Oct 12, 2009 23:49:16 GMT -5
Lovely weekend. Marilyn....WTF? Oz looked so controlled when I saw him at 39.5km. Why was the 8k so slow, relatively speaking? Hell of a run for Phil. Ooops, I mean Cheryl.
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Post by skuja on Oct 13, 2009 0:35:15 GMT -5
Chil.
Edit: In response to a now deleted (don't be so thin skinned) post called "Pheryl".
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Post by feens on Oct 13, 2009 0:37:25 GMT -5
Lovely weekend. Marilyn....WTF? Oz looked so controlled when I saw him at 39.5km. Why was the 8k so slow, relatively speaking? Hell of a run for Phil. Ooops, I mean Cheryl. Actually, if you look back at the 8k results over the last 9 years, the 23:56 by Ryan McKenzie is somewhat of an anomaly. Previous 5 years winning times: 2008 - 23:56 2007 - 24:22 2006 - 24:42 2005 - 24:20 2004 - 25:19 2003 - 26:47 2002 - 24:24 2001 - 24:40 2000 - 25:36 |
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Post by skuja on Oct 13, 2009 0:39:47 GMT -5
Maybe the "depth" is what I should have referred to. SQW obviously was off.
(As an aside....7:15am start for the 8k.....wtf? That's just "wrong", but thousands disagree with me, so.....)
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Post by feens on Oct 13, 2009 0:51:21 GMT -5
Just cuz they race it doesn't mean they disagree. I certainly wasn't enjoying the start time...I'm pretty sure I didn't wake up until after my cooldown.
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Post by skuja on Oct 13, 2009 0:55:08 GMT -5
It's like, dawn at start time, isn't it?
I know there are a lot of logistics to consider, but I still smirk slightly at the fact that - the longer the race, the later it starts, at RVM. Surely there is a better way?
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Post by ronb on Oct 13, 2009 10:03:44 GMT -5
I think they are reviewing start times, and the impact on the course. The City has a lot to say about it too, so it becomes complicated. In general though, it seems to make sense to get the Marathon started first. It was both early and cold for the 8K start, and it would make sense to try and start the shortest, fastest run later.
As for SQW, I think he was just out for jog in the park. He is almost certainly in the middle of his annual break from training. One thing I noticed in the 8K. was that Scott Simpson looked very fit, fast and focussed during his warmup strides, and he left the start line like a rocket - must have run a very fast first 200 metres, and I don't know what happened to him after that.
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Post by wetcoast on Oct 13, 2009 12:57:09 GMT -5
Scott told me he had a workout in that race, the plan was to go very fast for 4k....the 3rd marathoner Lameth Mosoti planned the same thing for the marathon, go out hard for the first half, then dial it back. Having the advantage of being in the lead vehicle, I can say I know that the three Kenyans spread out very early and did not work together at all. Whereas when I saw Steve again, at about 22/23k near the turnaround, as we were coming back on the course, he was working with 2 other guys, one turned out to be Andrew Heath from Atlanta. So they split a little slow 1:10:43, where you will see in my pre-race video interview, Steve said, "1:09" same as the first half split as 2006 when he set the course record.
On Oak Bay Avenue....Lameth's gap of 30 seconds was completely gone before McNeill - he got caught by Hillary Cheruiyot in what??? A km. At the time I was saying into the camera mic, "running a 66 first half, being on pace for 2:12 will not work for any runner in this field on this course, too many corners, rolls too much. I said he would die at 20 miles....he did, but I didn't realize at the time, he purposely was going out faster than the would if he wanted to duke it out (pun intended) with any other competition for a win. So it looked pretty lonely along Dallas Rd for Cheruiyot.
After Landsend 10k with his 29:19, Steve did say he fooled around all summer and that his plan is for Houston in January. So it is fairly plain that he is fit 'n fast, but perhaps doesn't have the long stretch of time of high mileage needed for the marathon.
It is interesting that I had pushed the question of 2:15 on Richard Lee his coach, Bruce Deacon and Steve himself and all three were reluctant to commit to that, but noted he is capable - again, the training (like he said) probably wasn't there. But you do have to hand it to him, many of the wins at RVM have been slower than his 2:22:43 and obviously he has the course record of 2:16:49....more to come from him, I am very sure.
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Post by wetcoast on Oct 13, 2009 16:57:26 GMT -5
Ok here is the Youtube 10 minute video from RVM, well video number 1 I guess. I am still not good at interviewing on the feet, have a dull voice, poor shooter, weak editor and all around rank amatuer. However, if you can get past all that and perhaps the graininess of Youtube videos in the first few hours (I learned that they get better after some time....a day?....). Featuring short interviews with a few names you may know. www.youtube.com/watch?v=lriLRJrzGlE |
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Post by ronb on Oct 13, 2009 18:20:22 GMT -5
Today's Victoria Times Colonist continued with more great coverage of the Royal Victoria Marathon weekend.
One of our most respected, and well-read, columnists is Jack Knox. He is not a "jock" columnist, but he gets it.
I highly recommend that you check out today's Tiimes Colonist, and get to page A03, and read Jack's column, "Ex-marathoner reveals secrets of great journeys".
The ex-marathoner is Dick Beardsley and he gave a riveting presentation to six High Schools in Victoria this week ---- not just to one class, but to a high school assembly at each school.
The last paragraph from the column is as follows,
"That's the short version of his story. The long version took an hour, but nobody in the packed Oak Bay High gym moved a muscle as he told it. Keep going forward, Beardsley urged them. Never give up".
That's a great message, delivered by one of us, to the next generation. SI, with due respect, this kind of interaction is made possible by the thousands of joggers taking part in our sport, and is representative of the possibilities presented by mass road races, and effective communication strategies supported by these runs. These types of synergies are necessary for a positive future in our sport, imo.
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Post by wetcoast on Oct 13, 2009 18:36:10 GMT -5
Knox is my favourite at that paper.
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