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Post by MattMc on May 13, 2009 12:27:06 GMT -5
-- 1 second too fast in the first kilometer of the race comes back as 10 seconds too slow on the last
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Post by francisccm on May 13, 2009 12:30:37 GMT -5
Some of this stuff on this thread is kind of out there.
But I would rather not wipe and take a shower after than get shit on my socks or shirt...
I always found it strange that it is always me that needs to pull over for #2, and the people i'm running with never do.
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Post by pq on May 13, 2009 12:34:36 GMT -5
-- 1 second too fast in the first kilometer of the race comes back as 10 seconds too slow on the last And if it's the marathon... - 30 seconds too fast (faster than actual fitness would dictate for an even split PB performance) at the half will cost you 2-5 minutes, maybe more, in the second - 1 minute will cost you 3-8 - 2 minutes will cost you 5-15 - 3 minutes too fast and you will lose 10-30 minutes - 4 or more minutes too fast in the first half, you will likely not finish, but if you do, it will be very ugly |
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Post by pq on May 13, 2009 12:35:48 GMT -5
I would rather not wipe and take a shower after than get shit on my socks or shirt.... Francis, the socks and/or shirt don't come home with you.... they remain as a sacrifice to the running gods... |
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Post by MattMc on May 13, 2009 12:44:51 GMT -5
That sacrifice may be the only way Nakluski can appease them now!
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Post by mrcrosscountry on May 13, 2009 12:47:42 GMT -5
I would rather not wipe and take a shower after than get shit on my socks or shirt.... Francis, the socks and/or shirt don't come home with you.... they remain as a sacrifice to the running gods... HAHAHAHA first time reading francis' i thought that he just didnt wanna waste shirt/socks. I just pictured someone finishing a run with their running partner in sweltering heat with one shit covered sock on their foot, and a shitty t shirt in their hand. |
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Post by SI on May 13, 2009 13:11:03 GMT -5
Gloves are always good in the winter-foliage is always dangerous-I used some kind of poison oak or ivy once. That turned out to be problematic. I had to use US one dollar bills in a porta poo at the start of the NYCM once. It was supposed to be my cab fare if I had to quit. Fortunately, I finished.
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Post by mrcrosscountry on May 13, 2009 13:13:45 GMT -5
Gloves are always good in the winter-foliage is always dangerous-I used some kind of poison oak or ivy once. That turned out to be problematic. I had to use US one dollar bills in a porta poo at the start of the NYCM once. It was supposed to be my cab fare if I had to quit. Fortunately, I finished. Dollar bills covered with poop? Sounds like you gave 'em to a bum. haha oh man, I couldn't resist. |
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Post by pq on May 13, 2009 13:18:01 GMT -5
...I had to use US one dollar bills in a porta poo at the start of the NYCM once. It was supposed to be my cab fare if I had to quit. Waitjustagoddamnminutethere.... did you just admit to having a pre-meditated plan in case you had to DNF? Did you miss the DNF rule posted earlier? wtf?!? |
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Post by SI on May 13, 2009 13:30:11 GMT -5
It's a point to point course and I didn't want to take the meat wagon. Never dnf'd in my life(you will note it was my first rule in my first post). I was about to go out at a sub 5:30 pace for as long as I could hold it with a pb of 2:46. I wasn't going to be stupid about it. It wasn't exactly some kind of Machiavellian plan-you just stuff them in your socks. I'm fine with what I did and certainly won't be handing in my man card. I also ended up with a story that got told at my wedding.
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Post by francisccm on May 13, 2009 13:49:41 GMT -5
Lol. PQ I didn't think of it that way. I don't think I'd waste a shirt either. Those things can run for 30 - 40$ these days. Just gotta perfect the no debris technique. I'd give a demonstration, but that would just be wrong.
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Post by tundra on May 13, 2009 17:22:19 GMT -5
*Have fun!
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Post by twofeet on May 13, 2009 19:59:26 GMT -5
- Do not spit into a headwind.
- Do not expel snotballs if there are other runners behind you. They will not appreciate doing 'Matrix'-style evasive manoeuvres in the middle of a race/run.
- Always race in a singlet (racing top for women) if it's above the freezing mark. If you need more layers, you're not running fast enough.
- Always drink a double espresso before an early-morning run.
- If you've planned to run but can't find the motivation, put on your running gear.
- If you still can't find the motivation, ask your significant other (in your best Pre voice), "Do I look like a runner?"
- If you fart while wearing headphones, other people can still hear it.
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Post by oldster on May 13, 2009 20:23:54 GMT -5
If you guys with the shitty shirts and socks heeded one of my first rules above ("always bring paper") you wouldn't have to worry one way or another!
I like the one about putting on your running gear if you're lacking motivation. It's amazing what this can do-- like when a sled dog is put into the traces. We're complicated monkeys, but very simple in some ways too.
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Post by oldbones on May 14, 2009 8:07:10 GMT -5
Sorry for being crude however ...
- Get your shit out the day before the race (save yourself that extra 2 pounds to carry with you).
- If above fails the hour before the race during warm-up should suffice. The magic hour where solids become liquids.
- If above failed ask yourself why you are not nervous? (Isn't a good dose of pre-race nerves a good thing ... prepares the body and mind?)
Finally ask yourself what the hell are you eating? Time to add bran!
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Post by MattMc on May 14, 2009 9:46:50 GMT -5
-- You'll never make as much $$ as Smithwicks
-- September is like spring for runners-- the leaves falling, the 'paper tiger' XC teams, the last shirtless workouts... hope springs eternal in September for every runner regardless of the age
-- get on the rail in any race 5k and up-- the back of the pack goes just as fast as the front
-- read 'once a runner' at least every 2 years
-- don't even try to wipe, just spread 'em wide and let it fly!
-- know your pace before you start a workout or race
-- don't wear a watch in a championship race
-- don't check your watch during a workout unless you are leading an interval
-- don't drive somewhere to go for a run-- run there
-- don't drive somewhere when you can run there
-- run to work if you can -- best way to get regular mileage in
-- the effect of tapers are vastly overestimated, especially among the HS and university crowd
-- don't mistake early physical maturity for talent
-- you don't send your pb in to determine the race results
-- if > 25% of the field ran a pb then the course was probably short
-- if > 50% of the field ran a pb it was definitely short
-- if >75% of the field ran a pb it was WAY short
-- buy the cheapest shoes that fit
-- thank your sponsor, race directors, officials, coaches
-- respect your coach's time
-- if you are slowing down during the workout you started too hard
-- you can fight wind and hills but you can't fight humidity
-- as hard as you think training is, raising kids is the hardest thing you will ever do
-- washing your running stuff once a week in the winter will suffice
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Post by twofeet on May 14, 2009 11:08:37 GMT -5
-- as hard as you think training is, raising kids is the hardest thing you will ever do Good one. I would also add: -- raising kids while marathon training is the hardest thing you will ever do |
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Post by MattMc on May 14, 2009 12:09:19 GMT -5
But possible:
pb with no kids 2:18
pb with one kid 2:17
pb with 2 kids 2:16 but training for the 2:16 nearly broke me!
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Post by bk on May 14, 2009 13:07:38 GMT -5
-- never wear sunglasses for an indoor race.... noone is fast/cool enough to wear them indoors.
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Post by MattMc on May 14, 2009 13:28:35 GMT -5
-- never go shirtless for an indoor race!
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Post by benjamin on May 14, 2009 13:31:46 GMT -5
-- never wear sunglasses for an indoor race.... noone is fast/cool enough to wear them indoors. What if they're prescription and your normal glasses bounce around too much to wear and you're basically blind without them? |
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Post by MattMc on May 14, 2009 13:59:12 GMT -5
-- the running gods don't care about prescriptions, shirt chafing or any other sad excuse you come up with in order to justify breaking the rules!
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Post by Desy on May 14, 2009 14:37:13 GMT -5
Matt, what is the rule of heart rate monitors?
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Post by MattMc on May 14, 2009 14:40:46 GMT -5
HRM-- no rule. I tend to be on the luddite end of the technology spectrum, but I have definitely used a HRM and even GPS at points in my training.
MJD may have other views on this though!
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Post by scheibo on May 14, 2009 15:11:24 GMT -5
-- if > 25% of the field ran a pb then the course was probably short -- if > 50% of the field ran a pb it was definitely short -- if >75% of the field ran a pb it was WAY short hmm... does this include mythical 1500m races in london? the legendary 390m track?  |
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Post by slow on May 14, 2009 15:57:25 GMT -5
-bathe and wash your running clothes regularly, particularly if you train with a group -Showering with your shorts on will suffice as a 'washing', but no more than twice in a row. |
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Post by SI on May 14, 2009 16:05:19 GMT -5
Breathe right nasal strips-sorry.
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Post by pq on May 14, 2009 16:07:52 GMT -5
What's the ruling on those silly looking knee high compression socks? Yay or nay?
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Post by SI on May 14, 2009 16:15:27 GMT -5
Nay. I don't get the arm thingies either-apologies to anyone who wears them.
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Post by smith on May 14, 2009 16:46:37 GMT -5
- do not surge to keep up with the person who is lapping you! (this applies to a very select group; you know who you are!)
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