I thought, given the deepening Smith/Nakluski controversy brewing across the nation, the time was here to get the rules spelled out for proper racing and training etiquette.
The only one I can think of is if your training partner is wearing shiny new fancy boy racing flats, you don't take him through wet muddy fields. But if you do happen to stumble across some 6" deep puddles filled with stinking muck, you show the good graces to let him whine about it for a bit.
I think the good doctor owes it to the Canadian T&F community to expand upon his personal internal set of rules.
(for those, like me, lacking the ability to detect subtle nuance, let me be clear the tongue is firmly in the cheek)
Post by francisccm on May 12, 2009 10:25:56 GMT -5
- Never make up excuses for losing that aren't true after you've given your all, just to make it so that you look better.
- Don't leave your buddy at a race without a ride home wink wink
- Don't get competitive in workouts... and take that as some sort of indication of how a race will go. i.e I just beat you in those 400m intervals so obviously I am going to win our next 5k.
- Workouts aren't really meant for real racing, racing in workouts is for people who want to get injured. With that in mind anything goes and doesn't really matter as long as they follow the above rule. Some people will feel bad on certain days and good on others, doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things.-
-Don't talk the talk unless you are sure of your fitness.
- The only thing that will truly go down in history is the final result.
- Take the time to console your friends when they put a years worth of training in and bomb their goal race.
Last Edit: May 12, 2009 10:26:13 GMT -5 by francisccm
Your wife wouldn't let you? It's out of Mattmc's pot and into the fire!
Hard to improve on this lot so far, but I'd add:
-Don't talk up a particular goal in the lead-up to a race only to abandon it a few seconds after the gun goes off.
-For the guys, don't attempt to out-kick the lead woman in the final 100m (you'll only get in the way, to say nothing of looking like a knob in the photos).
-Don't gloat when you beat someone with far superior P.B.s when he/she was clearly having an off day.
-Don't list as your P.B. a time from: A) A triathlon race; B) A course that was obviously short because EVERYONE ran a P.B. that day; or C)As course that is known to be grossly aided by a net downhill.
Last Edit: May 12, 2009 15:26:31 GMT -5 by oldster
If you are going to drop someone during a workout, you better bloody well mean it.
Don't look at your watch towards the end of an easy run ESPECIALLY if it means you will adjust your pace as a result. It's an easy run, idiot.
Have to agree with Matt's entire list but never dropping out unless you have a damn good reason has to be the number one rule with the never too XXXX a close second.
Have goals-just don't tell anyone but your coach what they are.
Don't talk about it-do it.
Always under promise and over deliver.
Don't tell people you are "running" 30km especially if you are telling me while you are in the middle of an extended walking break. Some guy I knew who had various nutritional aides around his waist(another rule in there) actually did that to me the other day after I told him as I ran by and he asked that I was doing 7-had to correct his assumed kms to miles.
Oh-don't describe your mileage in kms.
Make sure you know how to do basic math before you say you did x miles in y minutes.
Now before I go on about Dr matt's rules i will add that once...and only once have I ever sat on 'people' in any event over 3km (in my books anything under a mile is a free for all, unless of course you are that much better than the competition) you must do some work or be shunned by the running community
.....and coldneck will never let me forget that one, but then again in the pack i was running with everyone had seasonal bests of 20-30 sec better than me (and personal bests of around 10) and was 35 yrs old....how was i supposed to know i was going to be able to close in around 2mins in a 5km.....hell i was surprised i was even around at 4km...
...even if u only lead a bit here and there u got to do some work.....there are always exception to every rule (egs XC where u run in single flie on the mud/snow), but on the track (unless you are 1- in bad shape or 2- that much worse than your competiton) you have to do some work. Having said that i've seen some lousy situations from runners I respect do this exact thing and then kick the last 200m. But in general they only do it once....
......i don't know the situation with derek/andrew, but I would say give Nakluski a pass on this one (unless he has a history of this???!!), but if he does it again then throw a few elbows, steal his spike laces, tackle him, make him run in a tri outfit, etc....
-If you shit your shorts in a race, for god's sake drop out, it's over. (Or risk being discussed-- and laughed at-- for decades by the complete strangers who witnessed your ignominy at the finish line).
-- Don't Bogart the mike (School of Rock = best movie ever)
-- Don't disrespect yourself, your pbs and how hard you worked in the past (Daniels' rule)
-- Don't dis. someone because they are slower than you. There is always someone to whom your pbs seem pedestrian.
-- Always take drive over talent.
-- Trick yourself into getting out the door. The mileage is easy.
-- Don't take your eye off Bomba in a XC race: he is bound to elbow, jersey grab, spike etc (all fair game in XC)
-- Never take your eye off McCloy in the finishing chute of a XC race after trying to run him off the course
-- New talent always gets overblown, and old talent overlooked
-- Listen the Pgunns, Camerons, ristuccias, Pimms, Oldsters, Bombas, Ray Wills, McCloys out there who are probably telling you the way it is because they have seen or made the same mistake themselved before
-- Just because someone is or was a fast runner doesn't mean they know what made them fast, or what will make you fast (ie fast runners do not always make good coaches)
-- If someone has some new 'gimmicky' training technique that does not involve lots of smart, hard work, think drugs
-- Never believe anything anyone says after a positive drug test
-- If people take Ritalin and other "neuroenhancing" illegal drugs to do well in school (more than 20% of US college students at some schools) you better believe that PEDs are being used at a similar rate in sport
-- Blaise Mullins is the craziest dude, and possibly most 'talented' I have ever trained with (10km solo time trials at 10pm on the old varsity track the week of OUA XC in 31 and change and he came 2nd to RMac at OUs)
-- I Owned Coolsaet in the 90s! He didn't even make Guelph's top 7 in XC in his first year so there is hope for all you scrubs out there! Rudy! (Second best movie ever)
-- 'Good form' is meaningless and is often applied post-hoc to describe fast runners
-- Coaches become useless as soon as the gun goes off. Stop yelling!
-- If you do the work, you can own the dream. When the work stops, the dream dies. (Paraphrased from Marnie McBean)
-- Moving to the West Coast will not make you faster
-- The race doesn't care why you couldn't train last week, month or year, you just didn't.
-- Qualifying for Boston and OFSAA are the pinnacles of the sport. Only until you have achieved both can you retire with satisfaction. Sullivan's 1 for 2. Mcinnes? 2 for 2 baby! 41st at OFSAA XC in '91.
Post by mrcrosscountry on May 13, 2009 9:07:53 GMT -5
Avoid wiping with leaves if possible, it just ends up on your hands
If you gotta go bad enough, takecare of busines... you can finish the run wearing only one sock
Don't EVER run on the spot at a stoplight
Always give the finger to anyone who calls you a name, or says "nice shorts!"
DO NOT reply to anyone who yells "RUN FORREST RUN!" . Feel pity instead, because that is the most clever insult they could come up with on the spot. Feel pity because they think it is actually slightly humorous 12 or so years after the release of the movie. Feel pity because they feel they do a good impression of Jenny from the movie. Feel pity because they probably have never watched the movie all the way through (far too much boring stuff in between the comic relief of 'run forest run!' and 'life is like a box of chocolates')
... you can finish the run wearing only one sock...
Any experienced runner knows you have several sources of emergency asswipe in your possession on most runs, starting with both socks, and including the underwear and t-shirt. The only thing you really NEED to keep on for the return trip are the shoes and shorts. Ladies excepted I suppose, but you lot have those sports bra thingies, so the running shirt can still be sacrificed in a pinch (no pun intended).