rhino
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Post by rhino on Apr 22, 2010 22:03:19 GMT -5
Hi Folks,
I'm a high school teacher/coach who is interested in starting a track club. Some of my kids want to run through the summer (couple times/week), and I'd like to give them some structure for their running.
Since I'm their teacher, I don't think I can coach them during the summer.
Any advice? Can I start a club? What else could I do that would allow them to run?
I'm trying to protect myself, my school, and the students, in light of all the legality stuff.
Thanks for your help.
Adrian Del Monte
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jr
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Post by jr on Apr 23, 2010 0:26:23 GMT -5
There is no reason why you can not start a club. The process is actually quite easy but some of the little things depend on your province.
Contact your provincial branch (check Athletics.ca) for link info as they can help you through it very easily.
From there you just need to determine the number of athletes you will excpect and a few signatures and possibly a few dollars it should be done.
Don't worry about being a teacher as the teaching profession would definitely be the most represented in the coaching field.
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oldbones
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Post by oldbones on Apr 23, 2010 11:27:01 GMT -5
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Post by runningispain on Apr 23, 2010 12:47:46 GMT -5
alot of coaches have experience and are still bad coaches just because you have 20 years of coaching doesnt mean your any good. Let him get his own small club instead of all of the other school or ex school teachers hog all og the people. |
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Post by runner1958 on Apr 23, 2010 14:35:51 GMT -5
Easy now! Oldbones is trying to be helpful.
Looking at your username and the content of this post I wonder if you are basing your comments on past experience?
I assume you are now coaching, giving something back to the sport, and of course you are doing a much better job than your previous coach.
I wonder how many hours that coach put in during those 20 years? Are you willing to do the same?
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mpd
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Post by mpd on Apr 23, 2010 14:53:16 GMT -5
Rhino,
You're starting a club? Nice. Don't bother sending your kids off to an already existing club, unless you're not comfortable with them. With all the different styles of coaching it makes more of a difference that the kids are with someone they trust as opposed to someone who "knows what they are doing". Who really knows what they're doing, anyway? Oldbones provided some good links...
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rhino
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Post by rhino on Apr 23, 2010 17:56:26 GMT -5
Thanks for the advice, thus far.
My school is in Etobicoke, quite close to Centennial park/High Park.
Although I recognize that TOC and Etobicoke are excellent clubs, my kids aren't ready for that kind of commitment.
I just want to provide an environment where they can come 1-2 times/week and just stay in shape. The "hard core" kids already run with clubs. I'm thinking of all the other ones...
Any other tips would be most helpful.
Thanks, everyone.
ps. mpd...you and all your UofT buddies are welcome to come to practice any time. Make it rain out there. Old school.
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tb400
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Post by tb400 on Apr 23, 2010 19:40:19 GMT -5
Not all of our training groups are hard core at the Etobicoke TFC.
We have a number of kids who train with Run Jump Throw trained and certified coaches who follow the LTAD model for all track and field events, including jumps, throws and sprints/hurdles (even pole vault). The atmosphere is fun and the training environment is geared to the each kid and their level of commitment.
In addition our summer camp staff are all young and RJT trained or certified, so they'll not only have fun, but the quality of coaching is string through all the track and field events.
If you'd like to know more, I'd be happy to put you in touch with the provincial RJT coordinator who coaches with Etobicoke.
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Post by HHH on Apr 23, 2010 22:34:03 GMT -5
You also need to decide if you are going to register as a not for profit group. The advantages of doing this is that you can do bingos, Casinos, apply for a whole bunch of grants and funding from the government.
The downside is that if you become a not for profit group, you can be audited by the government to make sure you are using your funds appropriately and you will also now need to have a board with various positions filled by other people.
If you don't register as one it keeps things a bit more simple. However if you do, it opens up a lot more fund raising opportunities!
Best of luck anyways.
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Post by runningispain on Apr 24, 2010 0:34:31 GMT -5
Easy now! Oldbones is trying to be helpful. Looking at your username and the content of this post I wonder if you are basing your comments on past experience? I assume you are now coaching, giving something back to the sport, and of course you are doing a much better job than your previous coach. I wonder how many hours that coach put in during those 20 years? Are you willing to do the same? lol im 16 and im assuming your a school teacher? |
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Post by moorezy on Apr 25, 2010 8:10:39 GMT -5
The man isn't asking for a advertisement to your clubs, he is asking how to start his own. His kids probably don't want to overpay anyways. Back off.
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tb400
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Post by tb400 on Apr 25, 2010 8:32:03 GMT -5
"The man isn't asking for a advertisement to your clubs, he is asking how to start his own. His kids probably don't want to overpay anyways. Back off. "
That's it, let it out. Feel better now?
I was simply pointing out that our club is not entirely designed for hard core athletes. By the way, our club is by no means the most expensive in the the GTA, with a number of different prices for competitive and non competitive members.
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oldbones
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Post by oldbones on Apr 25, 2010 8:39:55 GMT -5
Hi Folks, I'm a high school teacher/coach who is interested in starting a track club. Some of my kids want to run through the summer (couple times/week), and I'd like to give them some structure for their running. Since I'm their teacher, I don't think I can coach them during the summer. Any advice? Can I start a club? What else could I do that would allow them to run? I'm trying to protect myself, my school, and the students, in light of all the legality stuff. Thanks for your help. Adrian Del Monte Let's focus on this part of the question ... as the title is not representative of the post: "Since I'm their teacher, I don't think I can coach them during the summer. Any advice? Can I start a club? What else could I do that would allow them to run?" Sounds to me he is simply looking out for their best interest and a new club maybe one option ... however ... I think an established club with diverse training groups is just what is needed here. The kids get the coaching, structure over summer, and to boot they get to meet new people with an interest (love for) in running. Just what might ignite their enthusiasm in the sport. I am not a member of Etobicoke Huskies (EHS) but I have had many good experiences with some of their runners so they must be doing something right (Dave Reid for instance!). Plus they have a summer youth development program ... Sorry if you think this is advertising ... I wish someone gave me such advice when I was young. |
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rhino
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Post by rhino on Apr 25, 2010 11:30:57 GMT -5
Good advice, again.
I certainly didn't take any of this as "advertising"...
I had been thinking that the best course, given our situation, would be to link up with an already existing club.
Since posting this, a couple of GTA based coaches have contacted and asked what I thought about a "satellite" location of their club. I believe TOC-Paul Dwyer does something like this.
Since that provide a legal umbrella to fall under, that seems like a positive direciton to pursue.
I do appreciate the feedback.
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Post by runningispain on Apr 25, 2010 12:36:14 GMT -5
Hi Folks, I'm a high school teacher/coach who is interested in starting a track club. Some of my kids want to run through the summer (couple times/week), and I'd like to give them some structure for their running. Since I'm their teacher, I don't think I can coach them during the summer. Any advice? Can I start a club? What else could I do that would allow them to run? I'm trying to protect myself, my school, and the students, in light of all the legality stuff. Thanks for your help. Adrian Del Monte Let's focus on this part of the question ... as the title is not representative of the post: "Since I'm their teacher, I don't think I can coach them during the summer. Any advice? Can I start a club? What else could I do that would allow them to run?" Sounds to me he is simply looking out for their best interest and a new club maybe one option ... however ... I think an established club with diverse training groups is just what is needed here. The kids get the coaching, structure over summer, and to boot they get to meet new people with an interest (love for) in running. Just what might ignite their enthusiasm in the sport. I am not a member of Etobicoke Huskies (EHS) but I have had many good experiences with some of their runners so they must be doing something right (Dave Reid for instance!). Plus they have a summer youth development program ... Sorry if you think this is advertising ... I wish someone gave me such advice when I was young. or he can do it himself.... no harm in it |
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Post by tb400 on Apr 25, 2010 13:13:48 GMT -5
There's no harm at all in new coaches coming into the sport. In fact our club has trained and certified almost 100 new RJT instructors including teachers and club coaches.
However one has to be careful when making erroneous comments about other clubs and programs (see the thread on U Vic Coaching, for example). It is only fair to be allowed to clarify any misinformation that might be put out there about a club or program.
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