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Post by kingwwc on Dec 24, 2009 20:27:44 GMT -5
As an alumni I was hoping that Ofsaa XC was the wake up call the guys at Leger needed. They do some pretty good work at that school and have some talented athletes but if you aren't beating the best runners in Ropsaa then you haven't a hope of making a final at Ofsaa. The last thing you should be doing is posting predictions for your teammates on TNF. Lessons you should have learned from what happened at OFSAA: If you don't top 5 at Pre-Ofsaa XC as a team, you probably don't have a shot at an Ofsaa Team medal (let alone a ribbon). Racing the Golden Horseshoe XC Series is great for getting free gear from FootTools but if you don't race Highland or Notre Dame Burlington, then you are fooling yourself into thinking that you are a lot better team than you actually are. In their defense, its not the athletes who pick which races to run. If you have a team with talent and you want them to improve, as a coach you have to challenge them, and expose them to the caliber of athlete that you hope they will become. My reason for making this statement, is that there is quite a bit of BS getting talked about on tnf threads from Rismay, Bright and Hamilton. (In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if Chance and Pimentel had tnf accounts too.) My advice is that you spend less time thinking about predictions and posting on ofsaa predictions and spend more time running. If I were a betting man, I would say that Woodfine is probably not a poster on any of these Ofsaa threads, let alone a frequent poster on this board. As seniors I would suggest you shake the "Ofsaa Syndrome". There is lots of running to do in this lifetime and Ofsaa is just the tip of the iceberg. Spend some time looking at the CIS rankings on sportingcanada.com in mid-January and you might begin to question how hard you really train. Please think of this as advice and not a reprimand. Think big and run the miles and good things will happen. McCabe and Chance have talent but I'm not sure they are doing the work. It took about a 1:50 to win SB Ofsaa 800m last year and I would expect the same this year. Stiks, well said. Finally somebody spoke up... It sucks that the bubble has been burst, but realize, there's still alot of work to be done. Works done on the track, not on the keyboard. Once you guys realize that you'll be on your way. Keep training, Cheers. Hey Guys, to sticks and to firecramp...... In no way shape or form am I taking sides in this argument. But I know both of you, and I know were all looking at this from the view that "we are out of highschool, and for me and firecramp, in university, and sticks, graduated".........cant we look back on our time in highschool, and imagine just how chatty we were with each other. I know you guys arent meaning it in a very negative manner, but its coming out very insulting.......we all had our wild dreams of medals and finishes in highschool, and if we had a board like this back than, we'd prob post on it just like these kids are. I really think that we should let them be highschool kids. Their not hurting anyone by predicting a 1,2 at ofsaa, let them dream.....its better they dream of medals, than have no motivation at all....thinking "ill never run that time, or beat that guy." With that said, I have not read all their comments on this board, and if they are going over the top insulting other runners and taking it too far, than i would obviously no condone that....but are they any different than us when we were in highschool. ps we shud all grab a beer together sometime haha
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Post by spencer3 on Dec 25, 2009 0:50:56 GMT -5
i will second the posts from firecramp and stiks... and not in a critical kind of way, only to say that i too enjoyed the chirps on msg boards and only recently that found that doing the talking with running can also be fun, and is much more respected
also merry christmas to everyone, hope you get some good stuff tmrw(today)
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Post by STIkS on Dec 26, 2009 9:31:34 GMT -5
Predictions are fun and can promote interesting discussion. The Kitley-McInnis, and Kitz-Barr reports are always worth a good laugh, in fact, I've authored some un-official CIS Indoor reports myself. However, I do question the pertinence of 15 pages of Ofsaa Track predictions and discussion before the end of December. Just forget I even said anything and keep the predictions rolling.
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Post by gwig on Dec 26, 2009 13:21:49 GMT -5
The TD Waterhouse Stadium track is definitley a very fast track, I'm expecting some fast times What region do runners from London run in ?
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Post by B-rads on Dec 28, 2009 16:25:37 GMT -5
the runners from London run in the wossaa region
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Post by henry25 on Dec 28, 2009 18:16:36 GMT -5
personally I don't think that any records for jr/sr boys 8 and up will be touched but maybe Ryan slieman will be able to break the mb 3000 record if he grows over the winter and trains like crazy without getting injured the mg field of phelan, hawthorn and Hillary stafford most likely won't but have a shot at some records because with a field of 3 excellent runners they will push each other watch out for stephanie rigg for jr girls she's fast... don't know about sr girls these people probably wont break any records but if there are records to be broken this year it will be by them, other than that the only records that I can see being broken are the sprint, hurdles and field events if the rumour is true, then Sleiman should have a run for his money with Ben Flanagan, the OFSAA JB Bronze medallist, who apparently is a midget. He should do quite well too
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Post by B-rads on Dec 30, 2009 15:30:26 GMT -5
ofsaa 3000 mb top 5
1 ben flanagan ( if he runs the 3) 2 Ryan slieman ( if he runs the 3) 3 phillip Messina ( if he runs the 3) 4 matt Stephenson ( if he runs the 3) 5 graham hansel ( if he runs the 3)
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Post by runner93 on Dec 30, 2009 21:09:21 GMT -5
i still say slieman for the win, even with flanagan.... close though.
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Post by gwig on Dec 31, 2009 12:25:57 GMT -5
Ya, that will be a good race, it will be cool to watch flanagan and slieman race, if one of them isn't doing the 3k then we will get to watch them in the 15 atleast.
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Post by B-rads on Jan 1, 2010 2:17:29 GMT -5
I chose flanagan for the win because he has beaten Harrison Sloan ( at ofsaa) slieman was second to him at otfa's, if you base it off that flanagan should win
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Post by runner93 on Jan 1, 2010 10:48:35 GMT -5
ya but about 1k from the finish, at otfas, sloan got lucky by avoiding a fall that put 4 of the top 5 down. i think sleiman also then took a wrong turn at the end. im not 100% sure on this though.
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Post by miletime on Jan 1, 2010 13:06:05 GMT -5
sleiman's wrong turn was not much of a difference, he went out about 2 metres to the right of me then realized that he was going outside, so he came back inside. I think the major part of that race was the fall that I avoided that set everyone back.
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Post by B-rads on Jan 2, 2010 12:43:24 GMT -5
why what happened? if there is a site that has the videos of the race on it, it would be greatly apprieciated
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Post by gwig on Jan 2, 2010 13:13:39 GMT -5
why what happened? if there is a site that has the videos of the race on it, it would be greatly apprieciated No videos that I know of, but the top four leaders were all running (abdi jama, Harrison Sloan, Shawn masters, and someone else) all fell on a small hill but Harrison avoided it and opened a gap while they were all on the ground and won and slieman also passed them while they were all on the ground.
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Post by Tyler Carvalho on Jan 2, 2010 23:02:58 GMT -5
No, sleiman was in that lead group.... he fell by accidently being tripped...and the other two(masters and someone else) fell over top of him... sloan ran off without being tripped
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Post by thefuture on Jan 3, 2010 13:56:38 GMT -5
Messina ftw with flannagon and sleiman close behinde .
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Post by gwig on Jan 3, 2010 20:05:55 GMT -5
Messina ftw with flannagon and sleiman close behinde . what event ?
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Post by thefuture on Jan 3, 2010 22:16:47 GMT -5
1500m if they all run it.
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Post by xc4ever on Jan 4, 2010 21:34:08 GMT -5
Watch out for Adam doxtator in the 3k and 1500 he was right with all the boys u are mentioning last spring and dominated the xc scence till ofsaa xc where he got cold feet cause he went out to fast he is a really good kid and he has a tough region which will make him that much better and for junior boys look out for nick holden he was 11th at ofsaa and has more guts than anyone else that was at ofsaa xc in all races
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Post by runningispain on Jan 4, 2010 21:45:38 GMT -5
What will the times be you think for the Midget boys from 800-3k?
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Post by gwig on Jan 4, 2010 22:35:50 GMT -5
What will the times be you think for the Midget boys from 800-3k? I would think 8- 2:00 15- 4:07 3- 9:05 But that is just my predictions, if some of them have alot of speed for track they could go faster, which is never a bad thing.
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Post by cpo on Jan 5, 2010 0:00:13 GMT -5
Watch out for Jacek Mokrzec in Senior Boys 3k. After being injured/lazy for the past 3 years, this guy's upped his mileage by 1000%! If all goes well this winter, he'd be top 5 any day.
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Post by gwig on Jan 5, 2010 15:41:43 GMT -5
Watch out for Jacek Mokrzec in Senior Boys 3k. After being injured/lazy for the past 3 years, this guy's upped his mileage by 1000%! If all goes well this winter, he'd be top 5 any day. what region is he from ?
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Post by lukesteer93 on Jan 5, 2010 19:40:36 GMT -5
Watch out for Jacek Mokrzec in Senior Boys 3k. After being injured/lazy for the past 3 years, this guy's upped his mileage by 1000%! If all goes well this winter, he'd be top 5 any day. i'm going to have to interject here and comment on the fact that jacek mokrzec will have to vault to 8:15-8:25 3k pace after "3 years of injury and laziness." that's about the time that the last 3, if not more, ofsaa senior boys 3k's were won in. what was his 3k pb before his layoff? endurance sports reward mature champions. high school racing is an exception to this (puberty at different times etc) but by senior basically everyone has caught up to each other. mokrzec would have to catch up to athletes that have been building and working season after season. i'm doubtful that you can become a top 5 ofsaa contender after just a winter of hard work, unless your lactate threshold and vo2 max are through the roof.
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Post by rovertrunner on Jan 6, 2010 12:31:31 GMT -5
Does anyone know what 2 events Eamonn Kichuk will be doing? Because I highly doubt he'll be doing the triple again.
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Post by gwig on Jan 6, 2010 15:34:02 GMT -5
Does anyone know what 2 events Eamonn Kichuk will be doing? Because I highly doubt he'll be doing the triple again. I would think he may have a chance of pulling of the triple again, but if he isn't then I wouldn't know what events,
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Post by eight-hundred on Jan 6, 2010 16:10:34 GMT -5
Does anyone know what 2 events Eamonn Kichuk will be doing? Because I highly doubt he'll be doing the triple again. I would think he may have a chance of pulling of the triple again, but if he isn't then I wouldn't know what events, I doubt he will win the 800m, either Brandon De Souza or Abdi Jama will most likely win. I can't imagine anyone else running an 8:43 for 3k
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Post by B-rads on Jan 6, 2010 16:57:37 GMT -5
eamonn can now run faster than that, he ran that time last year, but I heard from someone on this site that he wasn't going to do it
in the 800 there is also shawn master he will also have to deal with
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Post by thefuture on Jan 6, 2010 17:26:23 GMT -5
Eamonn is doing 800m his dad is making him.
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Post by lukesteer93 on Jan 6, 2010 18:00:16 GMT -5
ahahahahaha he would
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