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Post by loverunning on Dec 8, 2009 21:23:28 GMT -5
Region ----- Host
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Post by johnwells on Dec 8, 2009 21:35:20 GMT -5
Your mother was the best part of my day. YOUR mother was the best part of my day. Come on guys come on...GINOOOOOOOOOO sunshine thats not very nice
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Post by johnwells on Dec 8, 2009 21:38:24 GMT -5
steeple chase; Collison, Degroot and Dulhanty should all plan to run under 5:50, they will all be good enough and Smith should try and go with them, but nobody else has a chance. I can see them all running some of the fastest times ever at OFSAA 5:44 - 5:48. Also i was wondering if ayone thinks that some 3000m runners will try and go for the world jr. standard of 8:15 (for the 5000m)? it would be nice to see Woodfine, Hosier, King, Degroot, and Smith go for the standard and a record. Dont forget Brett Hacker. and i also heard that Raza was bumping up the mileage to do longer stuff like 2 1/2 hour runs. this guy has talent. dont count him out. Oh and Adam Sawatzky is a beast, he should be up there too he has a nice massive stride.
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Post by B-rads on Dec 9, 2009 22:36:12 GMT -5
no way Brett hacker has a chance same goes for raza ahmed
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Post by southwest on Dec 10, 2009 6:51:02 GMT -5
Region ----- Host East ------- COSSA West ------ WOSSAA South ----- SOSSA Central ---- LOSSA Metro ------ committee North ------ no meet SWOSSAA is the host for the West Regional as OFSAA is in London.
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Post by limestonemiler on Dec 10, 2009 11:40:32 GMT -5
Region ----- Host East ------- COSSA West ------ WOSSAA South ----- SOSSA Central ---- LOSSA Metro ------ committee North ------ no meet SWOSSAA is the host for the West Regional as OFSAA is in London. I don't think that matters. A couple of years back OFSAA was in Ottawa but East Regionals were in Belleville. I'm sure the same could be said for other years past.
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Post by B-rads on Dec 10, 2009 15:57:27 GMT -5
Region ----- Host East ------- COSSA West ------ WOSSAA South ----- SOSSA Central ---- LOSSA Metro ------ committee North ------ no meet so that means the nossaa guys can't run in ofsaa?
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Post by henry25 on Dec 10, 2009 16:41:04 GMT -5
Region ----- Host East ------- COSSA West ------ WOSSAA South ----- SOSSA Central ---- LOSSA Metro ------ committee North ------ no meet so that means the nossaa guys can't run in ofsaa? im pretty sure how the north works is for each association the winner of the event goes, (so thats 3 of 4 qualifiers) and then the next fastest time for the event across all 3 associations qualifies as well. Someone may be able to correct me on this, but i think thats how it works .. As For LOSSA hosting Centrals, lets hope its not at the Civic (but it likely will). It's bad enough LOSSA is run there, it's nearly as bad as running on cement!
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Post by limestonemiler on Dec 10, 2009 19:49:05 GMT -5
Region ----- Host East ------- COSSA West ------ WOSSAA South ----- SOSSA Central ---- LOSSA Metro ------ committee North ------ no meet so that means the nossaa guys can't run in ofsaa? Depends what you would define as run. Bring on the flame war.
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Post by tree on Dec 10, 2009 19:55:58 GMT -5
so that means the nossaa guys can't run in ofsaa? Depends what you would define as run. Bring on the flame war. I'm calling Proudfoot for 3000m medal. And there's definitely some other decent runners hidden somewhere up there in the north. We know we don't deliver though, so don't expect a flame war.
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Post by sd on Dec 12, 2009 10:14:17 GMT -5
henry 25 is right as too how the north gets their runers pciked. The winners of NEOAA NWOSAA and NOSSA all get in and then after that its the next best time from any of the three.
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Post by sd on Dec 12, 2009 16:59:27 GMT -5
Dec 10, 2009, 3:57pm, B-rads wrote: Dec 8, 2009, 9:23pm, loverunning wrote:Region ----- Host
East ------- COSSA West ------ WOSSAA South ----- SOSSA Central ---- LOSSA Metro ------ committee North ------ no meet so that means the nossaa guys can't run in ofsaa?
Depends what you would define as run.
Bring on the flame war.
Considering that the North (Sudbury, North Bay, Sault. Ste Marie) Only has a combined population of about 300 000 or 1/20 of what there is down south the North deffenetly holds their own. Another thing is that the winters are longer and there is only 1 indoor track in the north (not good enouff tohost meets on it) and we dont get to as many good quality meets because its atleast a 5 hour drive to do so the North is not bad atole. With legends such as Alain Boucher (still ofsaa steeple chace record holder 5:37.76) Ray Pollins, and Richard Charette (had every ofsaa record till Sullivan came along) and have good from the more recent future (walter twins, Benoit Boulay, Andrew Elerton, and many more and current athletes like Ross Proudfoot many more upcomming Midjet boys (came 3rd at ofsaa cross from noth bay) and some strong girls as well. Not to mention thers a lot of other people ofsaa 400m track (2 Junior boys finale last year from nossa) and Richard Mcllenan who had 2 ofssa golds in hiss carrer for the 400m there are many more athletes who are right in there or on the bubble of making the finals at ofsaa plus the timmins cross country team has mealed every year since Bourget and Raymond where in grade 9. The north does fine considering all of that.
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Post by sunshine on Dec 13, 2009 10:33:47 GMT -5
so that means the nossaa guys can't run in ofsaa? Depends what you would define as run. Bring on the flame war. oh snap!
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Post by lukesteer93 on Dec 13, 2009 12:44:28 GMT -5
Considering that the North (Sudbury, North Bay, Sault. Ste Marie) Only has a combined population of about 300 000 or 1/20 of what there is down south the North deffenetly holds their own. Another thing is that the winters are longer and there is only 1 indoor track in the north (not good enouff tohost meets on it) and we dont get to as many good quality meets because its atleast a 5 hour drive to do so the North is not bad atole. With legends such as Alain Boucher (still ofsaa steeple chace record holder 5:37.76) Ray Pollins, and Richard Charette (had every ofsaa record till Sullivan came along) and have good from the more recent future (walter twins, Benoit Boulay, Andrew Elerton, and many more and current athletes like Ross Proudfoot many more upcomming Midjet boys (came 3rd at ofsaa cross from noth bay) and some strong girls as well. Not to mention thers a lot of other people ofsaa 400m track (2 Junior boys finale last year from nossa) and Richard Mcllenan who had 2 ofssa golds in hiss carrer for the 400m there are many more athletes who are right in there or on the bubble of making the finals at ofsaa plus the timmins cross country team has mealed every year since Bourget and Raymond where in grade 9. The north does fine considering all of that. We understand that there have been some fine runners from the north, we're just saying they pale in comparison compared to southern athletes. Saying things like "oh, they were 3rd at ofsaa for this and this" will only illicit a response of "the south took the rest of the top 15" Please check out this link though. It'll probably help with your posting dictionary.reference.com/browse/run+on+sentence
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Post by sunshine on Dec 13, 2009 14:06:18 GMT -5
Considering that the North (Sudbury, North Bay, Sault. Ste Marie) Only has a combined population of about 300 000 or 1/20 of what there is down south the North deffenetly holds their own. Another thing is that the winters are longer and there is only 1 indoor track in the north (not good enouff tohost meets on it) and we dont get to as many good quality meets because its atleast a 5 hour drive to do so the North is not bad atole. With legends such as Alain Boucher (still ofsaa steeple chace record holder 5:37.76) Ray Pollins, and Richard Charette (had every ofsaa record till Sullivan came along) and have good from the more recent future (walter twins, Benoit Boulay, Andrew Elerton, and many more and current athletes like Ross Proudfoot many more upcomming Midjet boys (came 3rd at ofsaa cross from noth bay) and some strong girls as well. Not to mention thers a lot of other people ofsaa 400m track (2 Junior boys finale last year from nossa) and Richard Mcllenan who had 2 ofssa golds in hiss carrer for the 400m there are many more athletes who are right in there or on the bubble of making the finals at ofsaa plus the timmins cross country team has mealed every year since Bourget and Raymond where in grade 9. The north does fine considering all of that. We understand that there have been some fine runners from the north, we're just saying they pale in comparison compared to southern athletes. Saying things like "oh, they were 3rd at ofsaa for this and this" will only illicit a response of "the south took the rest of the top 15" Please check out this link though. It'll probably help with your posting dictionary.reference.com/browse/run+on+sentencegive the kid a break.
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Post by pmac on Dec 13, 2009 14:15:31 GMT -5
We understand that there have been some fine runners from the north, we're just saying they pale in comparison compared to southern athletes. Saying things like "oh, they were 3rd at ofsaa for this and this" will only illicit a response of "the south took the rest of the top 15" Please check out this link though. It'll probably help with your posting dictionary.reference.com/browse/run+on+sentence#1: Let it be known that, shocking as it may be, lukesteer93 is not representative of all the people in Southern Ontario. #2: The next time he tries to correct somebody's use of the language, he better put some periods at the end of all his sentences. 3#: Re-read limestonemiler's post. He's baiting the guys from the North (as in, it was a joke, for those who ride the short bus to school), and one guy took it hook, line and sinker. No need to lay into the guy though.
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Post by coachfaulds on Dec 13, 2009 14:32:51 GMT -5
[quote author=sd board=general thread=5256 post=69827 ....... and Richard Charette (had every ofsaa record till Sullivan came along) [/quote]
My brother and I ran a lot of races against Richard in our high school careers. Richard was an outstanding runner (maybe he still is?) and he's got a lot of OFSAA medals but I don't think that he ever set an OFSAA record getting any of them.
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Post by lukesteer93 on Dec 13, 2009 17:51:14 GMT -5
We understand that there have been some fine runners from the north, we're just saying they pale in comparison compared to southern athletes. Saying things like "oh, they were 3rd at ofsaa for this and this" will only illicit a response of "the south took the rest of the top 15" Please check out this link though. It'll probably help with your posting dictionary.reference.com/browse/run+on+sentence#1: Let it be known that, shocking as it may be, lukesteer93 is not representative of all the people in Southern Ontario. #2: The next time he tries to correct somebody's use of the language, he better put some periods at the end of all his sentences. 3#: Re-read limestonemiler's post. He's baiting the guys from the North (as in, it was a joke, for those who ride the short bus to school), and one guy took it hook, line and sinker. No need to lay into the guy though. I was kidding, mostly. If anyone takes limestonemiler's bait, we should be free to lay into them. I wasn't correcting his grammar for grammar's sake, just so he could make his posts a little more coherent. I'm also not from Southern Ontario. In fact I believe my school is the northmost in the EOSSAA region, so not southern in the least.
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Post by B-rads on Dec 13, 2009 22:36:44 GMT -5
did any of you guys hear that rumour going around that the zain ahmed train was going to show up for ofsaa track 2009 and show the midget girls up in a smoking fast 4:46 1500?
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Post by dr1500 on Dec 14, 2009 11:55:27 GMT -5
did any of you guys hear that rumour going around that the zain ahmed train was going to show up for ofsaa track 2009 and show the midget girls up in a smoking fast 4:46 1500? Ok, so yes it was funny the first couple of times but now this is RADiculous relax and have some self control. Whatever this is it isn't funny, FYI Zain Ahmed is a beast.
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Post by limestonemiler on Dec 14, 2009 12:14:39 GMT -5
Considering that the North (Sudbury, North Bay, Sault. Ste Marie) Only has a combined population of about 300 000 or 1/20 of what there is down south the North deffenetly holds their own. Another thing is that the winters are longer and there is only 1 indoor track in the north (not good enouff tohost meets on it) and we dont get to as many good quality meets because its atleast a 5 hour drive to do so the North is not bad atole. With legends such as Alain Boucher (still ofsaa steeple chace record holder 5:37.76) Ray Pollins, and Richard Charette (had every ofsaa record till Sullivan came along) and have good from the more recent future (walter twins, Benoit Boulay, Andrew Elerton, and many more and current athletes like Ross Proudfoot many more upcomming Midjet boys (came 3rd at ofsaa cross from noth bay) and some strong girls as well. Not to mention thers a lot of other people ofsaa 400m track (2 Junior boys finale last year from nossa) and Richard Mcllenan who had 2 ofssa golds in hiss carrer for the 400m there are many more athletes who are right in there or on the bubble of making the finals at ofsaa plus the timmins cross country team has mealed every year since Bourget and Raymond where in grade 9. The north does fine considering all of that. We understand that there have been some fine runners from the north, we're just saying they pale in comparison compared to southern athletes. Saying things like "oh, they were 3rd at ofsaa for this and this" will only illicit a response of "the south took the rest of the top 15" Please check out this link though. It'll probably help with your posting dictionary.reference.com/browse/run+on+sentenceI prefer this definition: www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Run-on-Sentence
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Post by jdome on Dec 14, 2009 19:04:36 GMT -5
Dec 10, 2009, 3:57pm, B-rads wrote: Dec 8, 2009, 9:23pm, loverunning wrote:Region ----- Host East ------- COSSA West ------ WOSSAA South ----- SOSSA Central ---- LOSSA Metro ------ committee North ------ no meet Just curious about how exactly the qualification works from the North and Metro regions. I'm assuming that in both cases the four fastest times in each event from the region qualify. If this is the case, then are they allowed to submit times from any meet from the current season, or are the times submitted from the association meet only? Also, what is the reasoning behind this method (obviously having a meet in the North would be inconvenient as it is such a large area, and they may lack the resources to adequately hold this meet, but this is certainly not the case in Metro). I'm most interested in the reason behind this policy (particularly in the Metro region), and the procedure because it seems to suggest to me that, if these regions are allowed to qualify in this manner, that a similar standard should/could be adopted by the other regions. As a runner who is also a swimmer (but not a triathlete... yet ;D) I have always been curious about the differences in qualification between Ofsaa swimming and Ofsaa track, which apart from the obvious swimming/running differences are quite similar, in that both are held in a standard facility over standard distances where spaces are strictly limited (unlike cross-country, where distances, course conditions and entrant numbers can vary). For those who are unaware, in Ofsaa swimming there are no regions, and athletes qualify from their associations, where the winner in each event (possibility of 18 athletes, assuming all associations participate in the event) qualifies, and the remaining 14 spots (for a total of 32 athletes in each event) are filled by the 14 fastest swimmers in the province who did not win their association race AND who meet the time standard (which is calculated from an average of 32nd place times from the previous two years, I believe). Although this qualification procedure does have its flaws (often events are not filled because there are not 14 people who can meet the time standard), I do feel that it is more fair than the qualification for Ofsaa track, where athletes coming from more competitive regions are shut out in favour of the 3rd and 4th place athletes from less competitive ones (sorry North...). To "fix" this, I think that Ofsaa track could benefit from adopting a model similar to that of swimming (although I do think that regions should be kept, as some associations winners shouldn't necessarily be "shoe-ins" for Ofsaa track, and that the qualification time thing is kind of silly, just fill all the spots). It's not exactly perfect though, as unlike swimming, track meets don't always occur in an ideal environment, which can affect times (though, I would debate that it has a very big influence, as my second fastest 1500m time was run on a very windy day). Comments?
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Post by limestonemiler on Dec 14, 2009 19:41:46 GMT -5
did any of you guys hear that rumour going around that the zain ahmed train was going to show up for ofsaa track 2009 and show the midget girls up in a smoking fast 4:46 1500? Ok, so yes it was funny the first couple of times but now this is RADiculous relax and have some self control. Whatever this is it isn't funny, FYI Zain Ahmed is a beast. Just because he's a beast doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be fast. It depends mostly on what kind of beast he is. For example, if he could be likened to a hydra, sure I'd call him a beast but having been restricted to water his whole life his on-land locomotion will be severely compromised. Even being a terrapod doesn't guarantee him speed. The most glaring example of this would be if he resembled the Beast from the Disney classic Beauty and the Beast. Sure he eventually won the hearts of Belle and millions of viewers worldwide, but by no means would I have labelled him the quickest cat on the prowl. I hope these cases help demonstrate that being a beast doesn't necessarily correlate with winning track & field events.
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Post by lukesteer93 on Dec 14, 2009 19:51:07 GMT -5
limestonemiler, thanks for making my life complete
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Post by xc4ever on Dec 14, 2009 20:48:35 GMT -5
ok seriously lets get back to the preds i'm calling Archer for the steeple win and Essilink for a huge upset in the 1500 and 3k couble win
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Post by B-rads on Dec 14, 2009 22:40:10 GMT -5
ok seriously lets get back to the preds i'm calling Archer for the steeple win and Essilink for a huge upset in the 1500 and 3k couble win no way esselink will win both the 1500 and the 3, I think you forgot about woodfine, hosier, smith, devries... the list goes on and on, don't get me wrong esselink is a great runner but there are many others he has to compete against that are just as good if not better by the way, balestrini for the steeple
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Post by B-rads on Dec 14, 2009 22:54:35 GMT -5
oh ya and dr1500 that RADiculous chirp sure was something to be remembered. because it was the GREAT dr1500 that said it, Id even say it has tnfnorth hall of fame potential for being on the all time greatest chirp list
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Post by lukesteer93 on Dec 14, 2009 23:26:02 GMT -5
archer for steeple. most definately
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Post by world on Dec 15, 2009 20:40:00 GMT -5
smith for the steeple win
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Post by 1972islife on Dec 15, 2009 21:19:46 GMT -5
ok seriously lets get back to the preds i'm calling Archer for the steeple win and Essilink for a huge upset in the 1500 and 3k couble win no way esselink will win both the 1500 and the 3, I think you forgot about woodfine, hosier, smith, devries... the list goes on and on, don't get me wrong esselink is a great runner but there are many others he has to compete against that are just as good if not better by the way, balestrini for the steeple I'm not saying that Esselink will take both the 3000 and the 1500, however, i think he'll take one for sure. although he has plenty of stiff competition, he did beat out the best in the country to qualify for world youths.
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