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« Thread Started on May 2, 2010, 9:25am » | |
I've been wanting to start this since Simon's WXC result in March, since it seemed clear then that he had a legitimate shot at breaking all Canadian distance records from 5k to Marathon this season.
That's one down and three to go (I'm including the HM, which he seems certain to revise next time out).
I would imagine people will want to express opinions on whether or not he can manage this feat in a single year, but I'm also hoping people might be able to post ongoing details on his actual racing plans as they develop.
Go Simon!
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« Reply #1 on May 2, 2010, 10:11am » | |
I certainly wouldn't bet against you on that bet Oldster! Some fantastic results last night all around, way to go Simon!
Can anyone explain to me what the group set up in Portland is right now? From what I can gather, there are 2 groups: Alberto's and Jerry's? Do they work together? Is Simon with Jerry?
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« Reply #2 on May 2, 2010, 10:14am » | |
I don't think he will. Not that I don't think he has the potential to do it, just that I don't think it will all happen in 2010. So many things need to go right.
Also, will he even race the 5km? That group races so little...
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| | Re: Bairu 2010 Can Rec Watch
« Reply #4 on May 2, 2010, 10:54am » | |
Assuming that Bairu races all of those distances in 2010, I wouldn't bet against him. If I recall correctly, Drayton set his lifetime 5,000m and 10,000m PBs in April and June of 1975, the same year that he also set the current Canadian marathon record.
Speaking of Drayton, I just discovered this nice profile of him by Paul Gains in the current issue of Canadian Running:
http://runningmagazine.ca/2010/04/sections/feature/jerome-drayton-ahead-of-time/
Among other things, Drayton says that he upped his mileage to 190 miles per week when he learned that Lasse Viren was running 210 per week:
“Of course he wasn’t working at the time, so he could run three times a day,” Drayton says. “I started off slowly, working up to 190. It became uncomfortable mentally after 140 miles a week because of the work situation. I sat at a computer at work. I had done 10 miles in the morning. I kept sitting there thinking ‘Oh God, I have to do another 18 miles tonight.’ Saturdays and Sundays I looked forward to because you got an extra eight hours of personal life.”
This may help to explain why no Canadians have even come close to taking down Drayton's marathon record in the last 35 years!
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« Reply #5 on May 2, 2010, 11:07am » | |
May 2, 2010, 10:54am, jbrecher wrote:
“Of course he wasn’t working at the time, so he could run three times a day,” Drayton says. “I started off slowly, working up to 190. It became uncomfortable mentally after 140 miles a week because of the work situation. I sat at a computer at work. I had done 10 miles in the morning. I kept sitting there thinking ‘Oh God, I have to do another 18 miles tonight.’ Saturdays and Sundays I looked forward to because you got an extra eight hours of personal life.”
This may help to explain why no Canadians have even come close to taking down Drayton's marathon record in the last 35 years!
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Puts the lie to the assumption that you can't work and run unless of course you want to do 210 miles a week.
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« Reply #6 on May 2, 2010, 12:41pm » | |
Great run for Simon, and I agree he has a shot at all the records, 5K. and longer. If only he could run a fast 1500, he might fit into AC's High Performance Plan...Well, if he re-located to the National Centre, that is... 
And that is a wonderful article on Drayton by Paul Gains --- very nice writing, Paul!
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« Reply #7 on May 2, 2010, 1:05pm » | |
That was a great run. There sure has a big resurgence in running in the US. Simon should be able to go 13:05 or better for the 5k.
Great for distance running in Canada.
The Kimbia crew are certainly getting some good results. I see that the Speed River crew had some good runs as well. Nice to see that. Some good steeplechasers there reminds me of the
Regina Mundi crew back in the 1980's. The SFU girls running the 800 are pretty good.
Cheers
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« Reply #8 on May 2, 2010, 6:23pm » | |
From David Monti's article ( http://www.letsrun.com/2010/solinsky0502.php ):
"I knew I was going to probably blow up with 10 laps to go," said Bairu. "But the plan was just hold on as long as you can, and then whatever's left: how badly do you want that record?"
Watching the race, when I saw the leaders go through in 13:35ish with Bairu right there, I was thinking he was risking being a little ambitious! But I guess that's always the way he's raced -- going out very aggressively and hanging on. Maybe he has the wheels for the 5000m record after all...
I'll also be very interested to see what's next. Hopefully he'll strike while the iron is hot and get in a few more races before retooling for a fall marathon build-up (Chicago? New York? ...Toronto?). Anyway, huge congratulations to Simon!
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« Reply #10 on May 2, 2010, 6:55pm » | |
as i spend some time w/ the portland crew i can say that they all complement each other well.solinsky moved up a few months ago to10000 so they have tim,simon and solinsky doing speed together coached by jerry.add flanagan whos husband steve paces.rohatinsky runs long w/them.
chris told me the marathon is in thhhhhhhhe cards.
salazar has rupp.ritz and webb
simons legs have been tight since poland
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« Reply #11 on May 2, 2010, 7:21pm » | |
I just wanna thank everyone in the TNFnorth community for the overwhelming support i've been receiving! As far as the rest of the season goes, Unfortunately, that was the last track race of the season (besides maybe doing nationals). As much as i would love to continue to try and roll out some fast times on the track i have to keep my eye on the big picture and that's a fall marathon. Jerry and I had decided before hand no matter how this race went this was going to be it for me.
For the record: thanks for the complement Oldster but i don't think i can realistically get all 4 records in one year, too many things would have to go right and plus, the attempt would never happen, it just doesn't fit with Jerry's philosophy.
Once again thank you all for your support, i really do appreciate it!
SB
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| | Re: Bairu 2010 Can Rec Watch
« Reply #12 on May 2, 2010, 11:04pm » | |
Dude, you just ruined my thread! The only thing I'll accept by way of amends is 2 hours and 8mins of your life-- spent covering 42.2kms, that is!
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« Reply #13 on May 3, 2010, 9:01am » | |
Lots of great video on flotrack (including the entire race); check it out if you haven't already. I thought this post race interview with Simon and Chris captured the absolute class of each of these great athletes. Well done Simon and Chris!
http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/....0-payton-jordan
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« Reply #14 on May 3, 2010, 9:31am » | |
Just about 1:30 in, Simon says something like "you know, the last three workouts, I only finished one of them..."
Interesting, no?
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Nice job, Simon!
Quick, someone tell me, any chance this is an automatic qualifier for Simon to go to London in 2012, or does he need to do it again like next year or spring 2012?
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« Reply #15 on May 3, 2010, 10:12am » | |
May 3, 2010, 9:31am, pq wrote:Just about 1:30 in, Simon says something like "you know, the last three workouts, I only finished one of them..."
Interesting, no?
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Nice job, Simon!
Quick, someone tell me, any chance this is an automatic qualifier for Simon to go to London in 2012, or does he need to do it again like next year or spring 2012? |
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Maybe Athletics Canada will put an official policy in place soon, forbidding athletes who race longer than 1500 metres to ever compete for / embarass us again...
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« Reply #16 on May 3, 2010, 11:13am » | |
The 27:23 equates to 13:02 on the Mercier tables. Would love to see Simon get close to sub 13:00 but doesn't sound like it is in the plans at this point.
Nice to see Simon come on here to thank the TNF community for their support. While the Canadian record does not hold the prestige or significance of OFSAA gold, it is still quite an achievement Simon.
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« Reply #17 on May 3, 2010, 12:12pm » | |
Good luck Simon with the marathon. Great 10k race. Have a great season.
Cheers
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« Reply #18 on May 4, 2010, 9:40pm » | |
In answer to my own question:
"Bairu, the only two-time NCAA cross country champion in Wisconsin history, is focusing his professional efforts on longer distances. His next big event will be the New York City Marathon on Nov. 7."
http://host.madison.com/sports/running/a....1cc4c03286.html
So he's not going for a pancake-flat time-trial course. Of course, considering his incredible XC prowess, the New York course may play to his strengths. I can't wait!
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« Reply #19 on May 4, 2010, 10:46pm » | |
right on - his goals.nyc marathon is slower than most but you guys know mr.bairu---going for the win is his goal
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